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Azadsingh2: name guy

2026-08-28T04:10:56Z

name guy

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	> "You are ruled by people. The people who rule you believe in all of this astrology stuff, and they know what [[Saturn]] means, what Jupiter means, what Mars means, what Venus means. You are blind to the reality you live in. But those who rule you — they are awake."		> "You are ruled by people. The people who rule you believe in all of this astrology stuff, and they know what [[Saturn]] means, what Jupiter means, what Mars means, what Venus means. You are blind to the reality you live in. But those who rule you — they are awake."

	And the self-identification: "We are Sahib Kiran — the unity of Jupiter and Saturn." In the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0ab331a8-b562-4a0a-8cbc-9d5d0d34c90f/ DEBATING BLACKPILL stream], Haz notes his open astrology belief was what pushed a comrade to blackpill: "This Haz guy's actually fucking crazy... this is actually a cult leader."		And the self-identification: "We are Sahib Kiran — the unity of Jupiter and Saturn." In the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0ab331a8-b562-4a0a-8cbc-9d5d0d34c90f/ DEBATING BLACKPILL stream], Haz notes his open astrology belief was what pushed a comrade to blackpill: "This Haz guy's actually fucking crazy... this is actually a cult leader." (As of 2026, the comrade, Red Patriot, has returned to Infrared and the [[ACP]].)

	=== The position ===		=== The position ===

Azadsingh2: Human approved

2026-08-28T04:07:59Z

Human approved

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	== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ COMMUNISM WINNING \| INFRAWOKE stream] ==		== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ COMMUNISM WINNING \| INFRAWOKE stream] ==

	> "You are ruled by people. The people who rule you believe in all of this astrology stuff, and they know what Saturn means, what Jupiter means, what Mars means, what Venus means. You are blind to the reality you live in. But those who rule you — they are awake."		> "You are ruled by people. The people who rule you believe in all of this astrology stuff, and they know what [[Saturn]] means, what Jupiter means, what Mars means, what Venus means. You are blind to the reality you live in. But those who rule you — they are awake."

	And the self-identification: "We are Sahib Kiran — the unity of Jupiter and Saturn." In the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0ab331a8-b562-4a0a-8cbc-9d5d0d34c90f/ DEBATING BLACKPILL stream], Haz notes his open astrology belief was what pushed a comrade to blackpill: "This Haz guy's actually fucking crazy... this is actually a cult leader."		And the self-identification: "We are Sahib Kiran — the unity of Jupiter and Saturn." In the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0ab331a8-b562-4a0a-8cbc-9d5d0d34c90f/ DEBATING BLACKPILL stream], Haz notes his open astrology belief was what pushed a comrade to blackpill: "This Haz guy's actually fucking crazy... this is actually a cult leader."

	== The position ==		=== The position ===
	Esoteric knowledge of order — planetary meaning as part of the cosmic alignment ([[Cosmism]], [[Allah, Cosmos, Xi Jinping]]) — deliberately scandalous to materialist orthodoxy and liberal rationalism alike, owned rather than hedged.		Esoteric knowledge of order — planetary meaning as part of the cosmic alignment ([[Cosmism]], [[Allah, Cosmos, Xi Jinping]]) — deliberately scandalous to materialist orthodoxy and liberal rationalism alike, owned rather than hedged.

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[Ma Lie]]		* [[Ma Lie]]
			* [[Infrawoke]]

	== References ==		== References ==
	<references/>		<references/>

	[[Category:~~Theology~~]][[Category:Infrared]][[Category:~~Cosmism~~]]		[[Category:Religion]][[Category:Infrared]]
			[[Category:Theory]]
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2026-08-21T10:55:09Z

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	"'''"Astrology''' is claimed by Haz openly — as the knowledge of the rulers, not a hobby.		'''Astrology''' is claimed by Haz openly — as the knowledge of the rulers, not a hobby.

	== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ COMMUNISM WINNING \| INFRAWOKE stream] ==		== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ COMMUNISM WINNING \| INFRAWOKE stream] ==
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	> "You are ruled by people. The people who rule you believe in all of this astrology stuff, and they know what Saturn means, what Jupiter means, what Mars means, what Venus means. You are blind to the reality you live in. But those who rule you — they are awake."		> "You are ruled by people. The people who rule you believe in all of this astrology stuff, and they know what Saturn means, what Jupiter means, what Mars means, what Venus means. You are blind to the reality you live in. But those who rule you — they are awake."

	And the self-identification: "we are Sahib Kiran — the unity of Jupiter and Saturn." In the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0ab331a8-b562-4a0a-8cbc-9d5d0d34c90f/ DEBATING BLACKPILL stream], Haz notes his open astrology belief ~~("I believe in astrology")~~ was what pushed a comrade to ~~take the~~ blackpill: "~~this~~ Haz guy's actually fucking crazy... this is actually a cult leader."		And the self-identification: "We are Sahib Kiran — the unity of Jupiter and Saturn." In the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0ab331a8-b562-4a0a-8cbc-9d5d0d34c90f/ DEBATING BLACKPILL stream], Haz notes his open astrology belief was what pushed a comrade to blackpill: "This Haz guy's actually fucking crazy... this is actually a cult leader."

	== The position ==		== The position ==
	~~Astrology here is the '''esoteric~~ knowledge of order~~'''~~ — planetary meaning as part of the cosmic alignment ([[Cosmism]], [[Allah, Cosmos, Xi Jinping]]) — deliberately scandalous to ~~both~~ materialist orthodoxy and liberal rationalism, owned rather than hedged.		Esoteric knowledge of order — planetary meaning as part of the cosmic alignment ([[Cosmism]], [[Allah, Cosmos, Xi Jinping]]) — deliberately scandalous to materialist orthodoxy and liberal rationalism alike, owned rather than hedged.

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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2026-08-21T10:22:55Z

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	'''Astrology''' ~~appears in Infrared discourse at~~ the ~~intersection~~ of the ~~movement's cosmic turn and its critique of liberal spirituality~~.		"'''"Astrology''' is claimed by Haz openly — as the knowledge of the rulers, not a hobby.

	== ~~The frame ==~~		== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ COMMUNISM WINNING \| INFRAWOKE stream] ==
	* The [[Ma Lie\|dark Marxism]] current explicitly claims the ~~cosmos: "alignment with cosmos" as moral foundation (~~[https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream]~~) — but as '''objective order''' (Allah~~, ~~Cosmos~~, ~~Xi Jinping)~~, ~~not as personal horoscope~~.
	* Haz's alien/meme speculations ("~~what if aliens~~ are ~~literally memes...~~ the ~~idea~~ of ~~Tung Tung Sahur colonizing our brains from afar?~~"~~) play in~~ the ~~same register — metaphysical speculation deliberately beyond the visible spectrum (~~[https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/~~00e75c5d~~-~~493b~~-~~453c~~-~~9b4b~~-~~bca9603c6ed7~~/ ~~COMMUNISM WINNING \| WE'RE SO BACK~~]).		> "You are ruled by people. The people who rule you believe in all of this astrology stuff, and they know what Saturn means, what Jupiter means, what Mars means, what Venus means. You are blind to the reality you live in. But those who rule you — they are awake."
	* Against New Age individualism: the critique is ~~that astrology culture among~~ the ~~online left substitutes personal fate-management for collective struggle~~ — ~~idealism~~ as ~~coping~~ ([[~~Bread and Circuses~~]]).
			And the self-identification: "we are Sahib Kiran — the unity of Jupiter and Saturn." In the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0ab331a8-b562-4a0a-8cbc-9d5d0d34c90f/ DEBATING BLACKPILL stream], Haz notes his open astrology belief ("I believe in astrology") was what pushed a comrade to take the blackpill: "this Haz guy's actually fucking crazy... this is actually a cult leader."

			== The position ==
			Astrology here is the '''esoteric knowledge of order''' — planetary meaning as part of the cosmic alignment ([[Cosmism]], [[Allah, Cosmos, Xi Jinping]]) — deliberately scandalous to both materialist orthodoxy and liberal rationalism, owned rather than hedged.

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[Cosmism]]
	* [[Ma Lie]]		* [[Ma Lie]]

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	[[Category:~~Ideology~~]][[Category:~~Culture~~]][[Category:~~Infrared~~]]		[[Category:Theology]][[Category:Infrared]][[Category:Cosmism]]

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2026-08-21T09:49:10Z

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	'''Astrology''' is the ~~practice~~ of ~~reading terrestrial affairs from celestial configurations. Historically inseparable from astronomy (Kepler cast horoscopes; court astrologers advised princes), it was marginalized by~~ the ~~scientific revolution but persists as a mass cultural phenomenon~~.		'''Astrology''' appears in Infrared discourse at the intersection of the movement's cosmic turn and its critique of liberal spirituality.

	== ~~Marxist assessment~~ ==		== The frame ==
	* ~~Marx and Engels treated religion and occultism~~ as ~~forms of alienated consciousness~~ — ~~real human powers projected onto imaginary subjects~~.		* The [[Ma Lie\|dark Marxism]] current explicitly claims the cosmos: "alignment with cosmos" as moral foundation ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream]) — but as '''objective order''' (Allah, Cosmos, Xi Jinping), not as personal horoscope.
	* ~~Engels~~' ~~analysis~~ of ~~early Christianity as a social movement wrapped~~ in ~~religious fantasy applies~~: ~~astrology~~'~~s popularity indexes real anxieties (precarity, powerlessness~~) ~~seeking orientation where materialist politics has failed to provide it~~.		* Haz's alien/meme speculations ("what if aliens are literally memes... the idea of Tung Tung Sahur colonizing our brains from afar?") play in the same register — metaphysical speculation deliberately beyond the visible spectrum ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/00e75c5d-493b-453c-9b4b-bca9603c6ed7/ COMMUNISM WINNING \| WE'RE SO BACK]).
	* ~~The post-1960s astrological revival tracks neoliberal atomization~~: ~~individualized fate replaces collective struggle.~~		* Against New Age individualism: the critique is that astrology culture among the online left substitutes personal fate-management for collective struggle — idealism as coping ([[Bread and Circuses]]).
	* Infrared discourse criticizes astrology culture among the online left as ~~symptomatic of idealism — change your birth chart, not the world~~.

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[Cosmism]]		* [[Cosmism]]
	* [[~~Religion~~]]		* [[Ma Lie]]

	== References ==		== References ==
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	[[Category:Ideology]][[Category:Culture]]		[[Category:Ideology]][[Category:Culture]][[Category:Infrared]]

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'''Astrology''' is the practice of reading terrestrial affairs from celestial configurations. Historically inseparable from astronomy (Kepler cast horoscopes; court astrologers advised princes), it was marginalized by the scientific revolution but persists as a mass cultural phenomenon.

== Marxist assessment ==
* Marx and Engels treated religion and occultism as forms of alienated consciousness — real human powers projected onto imaginary subjects.
* Engels' analysis of early Christianity as a social movement wrapped in religious fantasy applies: astrology's popularity indexes real anxieties (precarity, powerlessness) seeking orientation where materialist politics has failed to provide it.
* The post-1960s astrological revival tracks neoliberal atomization: individualized fate replaces collective struggle.
* Infrared discourse criticizes astrology culture among the online left as symptomatic of idealism — change your birth chart, not the world.

== See also ==
* [[Cosmism]]
* [[Religion]]

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Ideology]][[Category:Culture]]