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	'''Burma''' ~~shows up in Infrared debate~~ via the anti-colonial independence question — Aung San, the Japanese interregnum, British rule.		'''Burma''' — via the anti-colonial independence question in debate: Aung San, the Japanese interregnum, British rule.

	From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/hglyp6dadfg/ INFRARED RUMBLE: MASSIVE SERVER-WIDE DEBATE]:		From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/hglyp6dadfg/ INFRARED RUMBLE: MASSIVE SERVER-WIDE DEBATE]:

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	"'''"Burma''' ~~appears~~ in Infrared debate via the anti-colonial independence question — Aung San, the Japanese interregnum, ~~and~~ British rule.		'''Burma''' shows up in Infrared debate via the anti-colonial independence question — Aung San, the Japanese interregnum, British rule.

	~~== From the streams ==~~
	From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/hglyp6dadfg/ INFRARED RUMBLE: MASSIVE SERVER-WIDE DEBATE]:		From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/hglyp6dadfg/ INFRARED RUMBLE: MASSIVE SERVER-WIDE DEBATE]:

	> "What were the whites in Burma doing? ~~All they did was side~~ with the moderates — European elite opportunists~~, although they were pragmatically supporting the Japanese at first~~. Then when they realized Britain would finally have to be forced to give them independence — because the Japanese finally gave the Burmese a taste of freedom, ~~although not pure freedom, but~~ political freedom, unlike the British who were intent on keeping political AND economic control..."		> "What were the whites in Burma doing? Siding with the moderates — European elite opportunists... Then when they realized Britain would finally have to be forced to give them independence — because the Japanese finally gave the Burmese a taste of freedom, political freedom, unlike the British who were intent on keeping political AND economic control..."

	> "Burma's independence was very quickly disposed of, and that's why it was a failure. But the person the Burmese look up to is still Aung San... You're ~~basically~~ looking up to a corpse, looking up to a failure. You want to be successful, look up to someone who's a winner."		> "Burma's independence was very quickly disposed of, and that's why it was a failure. But the person the Burmese look up to is still Aung San... You're looking up to a corpse, looking up to a failure. You want to be successful, look up to someone who's a winner."

	~~== The exchange ==~~		An opponent answered by symmetry: "I could say the same thing for Stalin — he failed by allowing Khrushchev to take power..." — exposing the real question: are revolutions judged by their defeats or their achievements, and who defines "failure"? ([[Yezhovshchina]], [[Socialism With a Human Face]]).
	An opponent answered by symmetry: "I could say the same thing for Stalin — he failed by allowing Khrushchev to take power ~~after him~~... ~~does this just apply—~~" — exposing the ~~debate's~~ real question: ~~whether revolutionary projects~~ are judged by their defeats or their achievements, and who ~~gets to define~~ "failure" ([[Yezhovshchina]], [[Socialism With a Human Face]]).

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	~~The~~ '''~~Burmese Way to Socialism~~''' ~~was~~ the ~~ideology of Ne Win's Revolutionary Council (1962–1988): Burma's autarkic, Buddhist~~-~~inflected socialism~~ — ~~isolation from both blocs~~, ~~nationalization of industry and trade~~, and ~~the "Burmese road" against imported models~~.		"'''"Burma''' appears in Infrared debate via the anti-colonial independence question — Aung San, the Japanese interregnum, and British rule.

	== ~~Content~~ ==		== From the streams ==
	* The 1962 coup's manifesto rejected both capitalism and "foreign" Marxism as unsuited to Burmese society; the ~~BSPP ruled as the sole party~~.		From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/hglyp6dadfg/ INFRARED RUMBLE: MASSIVE SERVER-WIDE DEBATE]:
	* Nationalization drives (1963-64) expropriated Indian and Chinese commercial networks; the state controlled rice marketing, banks, import-~~export.~~
	* Results: ~~catastrophic economic decline, the black market as real economy, and the 1987 demonetization that triggered the 8888 Uprising; the junta abandoned the ideology after 1988.~~

	~~== Assessment ==~~		> "What were the whites in Burma doing? All they did was side with the moderates — European elite opportunists, although they were pragmatically supporting the Japanese at first. Then when they realized Britain would finally have to be forced to give them independence — because the Japanese finally gave the Burmese a taste of freedom, although not pure freedom, but political freedom, unlike the British who were intent on keeping political AND economic control..."
	~~The~~ Burmese ~~Way is~~ the ~~cautionary extreme~~ of ''~~'national roads~~ to ~~socialism''': patriotism and planning without industrial capacity~~, ~~cadre competence~~, ~~or mass politics produces not socialism but stagnation dressed in native dress~~. ~~It belongs in any honest accounting beside~~ the ~~successful national models (China, Vietnam)~~ — the ~~difference being organization~~ and ~~development strategy, not sincerity of patriotism~~ (~~see~~ [[~~Tridemism~~]], [[~~German Road to~~ Socialism]]).
			> "Burma's independence was very quickly disposed of, and that's why it was a failure. But the person the Burmese look up to is still Aung San... You're basically looking up to a corpse, looking up to a failure. You want to be successful, look up to someone who's a winner."

			== The exchange ==
			An opponent answered by symmetry: "I could say the same thing for Stalin — he failed by allowing Khrushchev to take power after him... does this just apply—" — exposing the debate's real question: whether revolutionary projects are judged by their defeats or their achievements, and who gets to define "failure" ([[Yezhovshchina]], [[Socialism With a Human Face]]).

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[German Road to Socialism]]		* [[German Road to Socialism]]
	* [[Tridemism]]

	== References ==		== References ==
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The '''Burmese Way to Socialism''' was the ideology of Ne Win's Revolutionary Council (1962–1988): Burma's autarkic, Buddhist-inflected socialism — isolation from both blocs, nationalization of industry and trade, and the "Burmese road" against imported models.

== Content ==
* The 1962 coup's manifesto rejected both capitalism and "foreign" Marxism as unsuited to Burmese society; the BSPP ruled as the sole party.
* Nationalization drives (1963-64) expropriated Indian and Chinese commercial networks; the state controlled rice marketing, banks, import-export.
* Results: catastrophic economic decline, the black market as real economy, and the 1987 demonetization that triggered the 8888 Uprising; the junta abandoned the ideology after 1988.

== Assessment ==
The Burmese Way is the cautionary extreme of '''national roads to socialism''': patriotism and planning without industrial capacity, cadre competence, or mass politics produces not socialism but stagnation dressed in native dress. It belongs in any honest accounting beside the successful national models (China, Vietnam) — the difference being organization and development strategy, not sincerity of patriotism (see [[Tridemism]], [[German Road to Socialism]]).

== See also ==
* [[German Road to Socialism]]
* [[Tridemism]]

== References ==
<references/>

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