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	~~"'''"Corporate socialism under FDR"''' — the framing that cuts through both liberal mythology (FDR as benevolent tinkerer) and libertarian mythology (FDR as socialist villain).~~		#REDIRECT [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]]

	~~== From the streams ==~~
	~~On the New Deal's overthrow (~~[https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0f7c08ea-3a3f-4a62-bfa0-69d5531d0cc6/ TRUE RED PILL NEWS stream]): "A whole generation of new money emerges in the post-war period bypassing central government U.S. regulations through the City of London. This is where neoliberalism comes from, where Reaganomics comes from. Basically, the New Deal was overthrown by this new class... We're talking about a new generation of the ruling class."

	~~And the Manifesto standard (~~[~~https://infrared-transcripts~~.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/2d1ebdec-de63-4a81-be9d-17a254901bc5/ RED PILL NEWS \| FREE PALESTINE stream]): industrial armies for agriculture, abolition of town-country distinction — "FDR maybe did 20% of that; since then we haven't had anything like that."

	~~== The point ==~~
	The American state socialized the commanding heights in fact (planning, coordination, control) while leaving bourgeois property forms as shell — Engels' trusts realized on American soil. What remains contested is only '''who commands it''': the people or the financial oligarchy ([[New Deal]], [[We already live in socialism]]).

	~~== See also ==~~
	* [[World Land Bridge]]

	~~== References ==~~
	~~<references/>~~

	~~[[Category:American politics]][[Category:Economics]][[Category:Infrared~~]]

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	'''"Corporate socialism under FDR"''' — the framing that cuts through both liberal mythology (FDR as benevolent tinkerer) and libertarian mythology (FDR as socialist villain).		"'''"Corporate socialism under FDR"''' — the framing that cuts through both liberal mythology (FDR as benevolent tinkerer) and libertarian mythology (FDR as socialist villain).

	== From the streams ==		== From the streams ==
	On the New Deal's overthrow ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0f7c08ea-3a3f-4a62-bfa0-69d5531d0cc6/ TRUE RED PILL NEWS stream]): "~~There was a~~ whole generation of new money ~~that~~ emerges in the post-war period bypassing central government U.S. regulations through the City of London. This is where neoliberalism comes from, where Reaganomics comes from. Basically, the New Deal was overthrown by this new class... We're talking about a new generation of the ruling class."		On the New Deal's overthrow ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0f7c08ea-3a3f-4a62-bfa0-69d5531d0cc6/ TRUE RED PILL NEWS stream]): "A whole generation of new money emerges in the post-war period bypassing central government U.S. regulations through the City of London. This is where neoliberalism comes from, where Reaganomics comes from. Basically, the New Deal was overthrown by this new class... We're talking about a new generation of the ruling class."

	And the Manifesto standard ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/2d1ebdec-de63-4a81-be9d-17a254901bc5/ RED PILL NEWS \| FREE PALESTINE stream]): industrial armies for agriculture, abolition of town-country distinction — "FDR maybe did 20% of that; since then we haven't had anything like that."		And the Manifesto standard ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/2d1ebdec-de63-4a81-be9d-17a254901bc5/ RED PILL NEWS \| FREE PALESTINE stream]): industrial armies for agriculture, abolition of town-country distinction — "FDR maybe did 20% of that; since then we haven't had anything like that."

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	'''"Corporate ~~Socialism~~ under FDR"''' is the ~~Infrared~~ framing ~~of the New Deal era: the point is not~~ that ~~Roosevelt "saved capitalism"~~ (~~the libertarian talking point~~) ~~but that the American state '''socialized the commanding heights in fact''' — planning, coordination,~~ and ~~control over finance and industry — while leaving bourgeois property forms intact~~ as ~~a shell~~.		'''"Corporate socialism under FDR"''' — the framing that cuts through both liberal mythology (FDR as benevolent tinkerer) and libertarian mythology (FDR as socialist villain).

	== ~~The argument~~ ==		== From the streams ==
	* Engels: ~~joint~~-~~stock companies and trusts show~~ that the ~~bourgeois state is forced to take over productive functions — "~~the ~~capitalist has no further social function" and becomes redundant~~. ~~The NRA~~, ~~wartime production boards~~, ~~and~~ the ~~Reconstruction Finance Corporation were exactly~~ this~~: the state as actual proprietor-in-fact~~.		On the New Deal's overthrow ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0f7c08ea-3a3f-4a62-bfa0-69d5531d0cc6/ TRUE RED PILL NEWS stream]): "There was a whole generation of new money that emerges in the post-war period bypassing central government U.S. regulations through the City of London. This is where neoliberalism comes from, where Reaganomics comes from. Basically, the New Deal was overthrown by this new class... We're talking about a new generation of the ruling class."
	* The war economy proved full mobilization without market allocation was possible in America — rationing, price controls, directed investment produced the arsenal of democracy, not despite but through planning.
	* Hence "[[We ~~already live in socialism]]": the socialization~~ of ~~production happened on American soil decades ago; what remains contested is only who commands it —~~ the ~~people or the financial oligarchy~~.

	== ~~Why it matters~~ ==		And the Manifesto standard ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/2d1ebdec-de63-4a81-be9d-17a254901bc5/ RED PILL NEWS \| FREE PALESTINE stream]): industrial armies for agriculture, abolition of town-country distinction — "FDR maybe did 20% of that; since then we haven't had anything like that."
	~~This reframing destroys both liberal mythology~~ (~~FDR~~ as ~~benevolent centrist tinkering) and Trotskyist mythology~~ (~~America as immune to~~ socialism)~~. The American state has always been capable of total economic direction; the question is class agency~~.
			== The point ==
			The American state socialized the commanding heights in fact (planning, coordination, control) while leaving bourgeois property forms as shell — Engels' trusts realized on American soil. What remains contested is only '''who commands it''': the people or the financial oligarchy ([[New Deal]], [[We already live in socialism]]).

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[~~New Deal]]~~		* [[World Land Bridge]]
	* [[We already live in socialism]]

	== References ==		== References ==

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'''"Corporate Socialism under FDR"''' is the Infrared framing of the New Deal era: the point is not that Roosevelt "saved capitalism" (the libertarian talking point) but that the American state '''socialized the commanding heights in fact''' — planning, coordination, and control over finance and industry — while leaving bourgeois property forms intact as a shell.

== The argument ==
* Engels: joint-stock companies and trusts show that the bourgeois state is forced to take over productive functions — "the capitalist has no further social function" and becomes redundant. The NRA, wartime production boards, and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation were exactly this: the state as actual proprietor-in-fact.
* The war economy proved full mobilization without market allocation was possible in America — rationing, price controls, directed investment produced the arsenal of democracy, not despite but through planning.
* Hence "[[We already live in socialism]]": the socialization of production happened on American soil decades ago; what remains contested is only who commands it — the people or the financial oligarchy.

== Why it matters ==
This reframing destroys both liberal mythology (FDR as benevolent centrist tinkering) and Trotskyist mythology (America as immune to socialism). The American state has always been capable of total economic direction; the question is class agency.

== See also ==
* [[New Deal]]
* [[We already live in socialism]]

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:American politics]][[Category:Economics]][[Category:Infrared]]