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	'''Dark Ma Li''' (~~dark Mali,~~ dark Marxism) — Haz's name for Infrared's mature self-understanding: '''post-ideological Marxism-Leninism''', oriented by cosmos and moral substance rather than ideological formula.		'''Dark Ma Lie''' (dark Marxism-Leninism) is Haz's name for [[Infrared]]'s mature self-understanding: '''post-ideological [[Marxism-Leninism]]''', oriented by [[cosmism\|cosmos]] and [[infrawoke\|moral]] substance rather than ideological formula.

	~~== What it is ==~~
	From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/50155ce0-af8c-434a-97f8-9162f2cfc351/ ICE UPRISING stream]:		From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/50155ce0-af8c-434a-97f8-9162f2cfc351/ ICE UPRISING stream]:

	> "Infrared's special articulation... is a lineage which I recently have articulated and like to call dark ~~Mali~~ — dark Marxism. To explain what dark Marxism is: it is a post-ideological understanding of Marxism-Leninism... The problem of 20th century Marxism-Leninism, in both Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China, was that it was too ideological."		<blockquote>"Infrared's special articulation... is a lineage which I recently have articulated and like to call dark Ma Lie — dark Marxism. To explain what dark Marxism is: it is a post-ideological understanding of Marxism-Leninism... The problem of 20th century Marxism-Leninism, in both Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China, was that it was too ideological."</blockquote>

	~~And ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/fac9a5c8-7ef1-4dfe-b038-3aca2a6169cf/ MASSIVE BATTLE stream]): "This is a dark~~ Ma Li insight — dark Marxism, not the stupid shit you hear about. Marxism not only has nothing wrong with inequality, it affirms the necessity of inequality" — inequality as a trend of history, not a scandal to abolish by decree.		==Ma Lie==

	~~== Relation to Infrawoke ==~~		马列 Ma Lie means Marx-Lenin in Chinese, as in 马列主义 Ma Lie Zhuyi, "Marxism-Leninism". The "i" in "lie" is pronounced as "ye", but the phrase is often mispronounced and misspelled as "ma li".
	~~Haz is explicit:~~ "~~[[Infrawoke]]~~ is ~~the same thing~~ as ~~Dark Mali~~" ~~([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream]). Both name the turn toward moral-civilizational content:~~ "~~moral clarity~~, ~~alignment with cosmos, a Confucian morality, a Shia morality, a Zoroastrian morality... a morality that has substance, not just an empty sense of superiority of~~ the ~~self~~."

	== ~~The name~~ ==		==From the streams==
	"Ma ~~Li" plays~~ on ~~Marx~~-~~Mao~~-Li~~; "~~dark" ~~signals what operates beneath~~ the ~~visible spectrum — power~~, ~~party~~, ~~history~~ as ~~realities embedded in~~ the ~~unconscious that can't be made objects of liberal inspection (~~[[~~Cosmism~~]], [[~~Allah~~, ~~Cosmos, Xi Jinping~~]]).
			===Dark Ma Lie on inequality===

			And ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/fac9a5c8-7ef1-4dfe-b038-3aca2a6169cf/ MASSIVE BATTLE stream]): "This is a dark Ma Li insight — dark Marxism, not the stupid shit you hear about. [[Marxism]] not only has nothing wrong with inequality, it affirms the necessity of inequality."

			Marx went over this in [[Critique of the Gotha Program]] section 1, describing a communist society, where inequality results from one man supplying labor at a higher quality or duration than another.

			=== Relation to Infrawoke ===
			Haz is explicit: "[[Infrawoke]] is the same thing as Dark Mali" ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream]). Both name the turn toward moral-civilizational content: "moral clarity, alignment with cosmos, a [[Confucian]] morality, a [[Shia]] morality, a [[Zoroastrian]] morality... a morality that has substance, not just an empty sense of superiority of the self."

	== See also ==		== See also ==
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	'''Dark Ma Li''' (~~also rendered ''Dark~~ Mali'', ''dark Marxism'') is Haz ~~Al-Din~~'s name for Infrared's mature ~~theoretical~~ self-understanding: a '''post-ideological Marxism-Leninism''' oriented by ~~the~~ cosmos~~, the unseen,~~ and moral substance rather than by ideological formula.		'''Dark Ma Li''' (dark Mali, dark Marxism) — Haz's name for Infrared's mature self-understanding: '''post-ideological Marxism-Leninism''', oriented by cosmos and moral substance rather than ideological formula.

	== What it is ==		== What it is ==
	From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/50155ce0-af8c-434a-97f8-9162f2cfc351/ ICE UPRISING stream]:		From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/50155ce0-af8c-434a-97f8-9162f2cfc351/ ICE UPRISING stream]:

	> "Infrared's special articulation... is a lineage which I recently have articulated and like to call dark Mali~~...~~ dark Marxism. To explain what dark Marxism is: it is a post-ideological understanding of Marxism-Leninism... The problem of 20th century Marxism-Leninism, in both Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China, was that it was too ideological."		> "Infrared's special articulation... is a lineage which I recently have articulated and like to call dark Mali — dark Marxism. To explain what dark Marxism is: it is a post-ideological understanding of Marxism-Leninism... The problem of 20th century Marxism-Leninism, in both Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China, was that it was too ideological."

	And ~~from the~~ [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/fac9a5c8-7ef1-4dfe-b038-3aca2a6169cf/ MASSIVE BATTLE stream]: "~~this~~ is a dark Ma Li insight~~, okay, this is~~ dark Marxism, not the stupid shit you hear about. Marxism not only has nothing wrong with inequality, it affirms the necessity of inequality" — inequality as a trend of history, not a scandal to ~~be abolished~~ by decree.		And ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/fac9a5c8-7ef1-4dfe-b038-3aca2a6169cf/ MASSIVE BATTLE stream]): "This is a dark Ma Li insight — dark Marxism, not the stupid shit you hear about. Marxism not only has nothing wrong with inequality, it affirms the necessity of inequality" — inequality as a trend of history, not a scandal to abolish by decree.

	== Relation to Infrawoke ==		== Relation to Infrawoke ==
	Haz is explicit: "[[Infrawoke]] is the same thing as Dark Mali" ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream]). Both name the ~~movement's~~ turn toward moral-civilizational content: "~~we need a~~ moral clarity, ~~we need an~~ alignment with cosmos, ~~we need~~ a Confucian morality, ~~we need~~ a Shia morality, ~~we need~~ a Zoroastrian morality... a morality that ~~presupposes having passed through the stage" —~~ substance, not ~~the~~ empty ~~self-~~superiority of ~~woke 1.0 nor~~ the ~~grifting of anti-woke conservatism~~.		Haz is explicit: "[[Infrawoke]] is the same thing as Dark Mali" ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream]). Both name the turn toward moral-civilizational content: "moral clarity, alignment with cosmos, a Confucian morality, a Shia morality, a Zoroastrian morality... a morality that has substance, not just an empty sense of superiority of the self."

	== The name ==		== The name ==
	"Ma Li" plays on Marx-Mao-Li ~~(as in Li Dazhao, or simply the sinified rendering of "Marxism-Leninism")~~; "dark" signals what operates beneath the visible spectrum — ~~the~~ party, ~~power, and~~ history as realities embedded in the unconscious that ~~cannot~~ be made ~~into~~ objects of liberal inspection (~~the Cultural Revolution as "awakening to the dark"~~).		"Ma Li" plays on Marx-Mao-Li; "dark" signals what operates beneath the visible spectrum — power, party, history as realities embedded in the unconscious that can't be made objects of liberal inspection ([[Cosmism]], [[Allah, Cosmos, Xi Jinping]]).

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[Infrawoke]]		* [[Infrawoke]]
	* [[Allah, Cosmos, Xi Jinping]]

	== References ==		== References ==

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	'''Ma ~~Lie~~''' ~~— [STUB~~: ~~this page needs community input on referent and context. Possibilities include~~ a ~~person~~, ~~meme~~, ~~or transliteration used in Infrared streams~~.]		'''Dark Ma Li''' (also rendered ''Dark Mali'', ''dark Marxism'') is Haz Al-Din's name for Infrared's mature theoretical self-understanding: a '''post-ideological Marxism-Leninism''' oriented by the cosmos, the unseen, and moral substance rather than by ideological formula.

	If you ~~know~~ the ~~source~~ (stream ~~date~~, ~~clip~~, ~~X post~~), ~~please expand this page with:~~		== What it is ==
	* Definition/origin		From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/50155ce0-af8c-434a-97f8-9162f2cfc351/ ICE UPRISING stream]:
	* ~~First known usage~~
	* ~~Related terminology~~		> "Infrared's special articulation... is a lineage which I recently have articulated and like to call dark Mali... dark Marxism. To explain what dark Marxism is: it is a post-ideological understanding of Marxism-Leninism... The problem of 20th century Marxism-Leninism, in both Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China, was that it was too ideological."

			And from the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/fac9a5c8-7ef1-4dfe-b038-3aca2a6169cf/ MASSIVE BATTLE stream]: "this is a dark Ma Li insight, okay, this is dark Marxism, not the stupid shit you hear about. Marxism not only has nothing wrong with inequality, it affirms the necessity of inequality" — inequality as a trend of history, not a scandal to be abolished by decree.

			== Relation to Infrawoke ==
			Haz is explicit: "[[Infrawoke]] is the same thing as Dark Mali" ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream]). Both name the movement's turn toward moral-civilizational content: "we need a moral clarity, we need an alignment with cosmos, we need a Confucian morality, we need a Shia morality, we need a Zoroastrian morality... a morality that presupposes having passed through the stage" — substance, not the empty self-superiority of woke 1.0 nor the grifting of anti-woke conservatism.

			== The name ==
			"Ma Li" plays on Marx-Mao-Li (as in Li Dazhao, or simply the sinified rendering of "Marxism-Leninism"); "dark" signals what operates beneath the visible spectrum — the party, power, and history as realities embedded in the unconscious that cannot be made into objects of liberal inspection (the Cultural Revolution as "awakening to the dark").

			== See also ==
			* [[Infrawoke]]
			* [[Allah, Cosmos, Xi Jinping]]

	== References ==		== References ==
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'''Ma Lie''' — [STUB: this page needs community input on referent and context. Possibilities include a person, meme, or transliteration used in Infrared streams.]

If you know the source (stream date, clip, X post), please expand this page with:
* Definition/origin
* First known usage
* Related terminology

== References ==
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