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	'''Europa: The Last Battle''' is a ten-part series made by Swedish neo-Nazi Tobias Bratt. It is focused on Nazi apologia, historical revisionism and conspiracy theories about Jews and [[Communism]]. It's composed of wholly unfounded and sourceless claims mixed in with known historical facts, which makes it hard for the average person to separate truth from falsehood. Normally, source-less claims can be dismissed without investigation, but since it's widely cited by neo-Nazis on the internet, we have taken it upon ourselves to take every claim seriously and investigate it as if it were true.		'''Europa: The Last Battle''' is a ten-part series made by Swedish neo-Nazi Tobias Bratt. It is focused on [[Nazi]] apologia, [[historical revisionism]] and conspiracy theories about Jews and [[Communism]]. It's composed of wholly unfounded and sourceless claims mixed in with known historical facts, which makes it hard for the average person to separate truth from falsehood. Normally, source-less claims can be dismissed without investigation, but since it's widely cited by neo-Nazis on the internet, we have taken it upon ourselves to take every claim seriously and investigate it as if it were true.

	All good propaganda contains a grain of truth. To lie is very easy, but the truth requires close study. We in the Infrared Collective are committed to the final and most complete truth. This page will serve as a master page for '''debunking Europa: The Last Battle.''' This time, with real sources.		All good propaganda contains a grain of truth. To lie is very easy, but the truth requires close study. We in the Infrared Collective are committed to the final and most complete truth. This page will serve as a master page for '''debunking Europa: The Last Battle.''' This time, with real sources.

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	===== Claim: Marx was related to the Rothschilds =====		===== Claim: Marx was related to the Rothschilds =====
	[[File:MarxGeneology.png\|thumb]]		[[File:MarxGeneology.png\|thumb]]
	~~Marx was a distant cousin, but had '''no blood relation / no common ancestor''' with the Rothschilds.~~

	Let's investigate the lineage. Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744 – 1812) was the founder of the banking dynasty. He does not have a common ancestor with Marx. One of his five children however - Nathan Mayer Rothschild - married Hannah Barent Cohen. Hannah's Grandfather, Barent Cohen, was the Grand-Grand-Grand father of Marx. '''Verdict:''' ~~Semi-~~true		Let's investigate the lineage. Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744 – 1812) was the founder of the banking dynasty. He does not have a common ancestor with Marx. One of his five children however - Nathan Mayer Rothschild - married Hannah Barent Cohen. Hannah's Grandfather, Barent Cohen, was the Grand-Grand-Grand father of Marx.

			Conclusion: Marx was a distant cousin, but had '''no blood relation / no common ancestor''' with the Rothschilds.

			'''Verdict:''' Partly true
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	===== Claim: Marx was related to the Rothschilds =====		===== Claim: Marx was related to the Rothschilds =====
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	Let's investigate the lineage. ~~'''~~Mayer Amschel Rothschild~~'''~~ (1744 – 1812) was the founder of the banking dynasty. He ~~'''~~does not have a common ancestor with Marx~~'''~~. One of his five children however - Nathan Mayer Rothschild - married Hannah Barent Cohen. Hannah's Grandfather, Barent Cohen, was the ~~'''~~Grand-Grand-Grand~~'''~~ father of Marx'''. Verdict:''' ~~True~~		Marx was a distant cousin, but had '''no blood relation / no common ancestor''' with the Rothschilds.

			Let's investigate the lineage. Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744 – 1812) was the founder of the banking dynasty. He does not have a common ancestor with Marx. One of his five children however - Nathan Mayer Rothschild - married Hannah Barent Cohen. Hannah's Grandfather, Barent Cohen, was the Grand-Grand-Grand father of Marx. '''Verdict:''' Semi-true
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"Hess converted them to communism and assisted them with their work The Communist Manifesto"

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	Hess first came into contact with Marx in 1842 - working together on a newspaper in the intellectual, communist environment of Paris - and their relationship was quite the opposite, Marx was the teacher of Hess.<ref>"[Marx] goes beyond Strauss and even beyond Feuerbach . . . Such a man I always wanted to have as my teacher in philosophy. Only now do I feel what an idiot in philosophy have I been. But patience! I will still learn something. Dr Marx – this is the name of my idol" - A letter to Berthold Auerbach by Moses Hess		Hess first came into contact with Marx in 1842 - working together on a newspaper in the intellectual, communist environment of Paris - and their relationship was quite the opposite, Marx was the teacher of Hess.<ref>"[Marx] goes beyond Strauss and even beyond Feuerbach . . . Such a man I always wanted to have as my teacher in philosophy. Only now do I feel what an idiot in philosophy have I been. But patience! I will still learn something. Dr Marx – this is the name of my idol" - A letter to Berthold Auerbach by Moses Hess

	https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Marx early writings are available here,<ref>https://files.libcom.org/files/Marx-Early-Writings.pdf</ref> where he slowely lands in the conclusion of communism, from an entirely different angle, a materialist one, than Hess. Marx writes that he was influenced not only by Hess, but by French and English socialists which were utopian Christians, furthermore by Weitling and Engels - who together with Hess were the only Germans to translate French communist ideas into German.<ref>https://philarchive.org/archive/KOVMHM<nowiki/>Economic Manuscripts (1844)		https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Marx early writings are available here,<ref>https://files.libcom.org/files/Marx-Early-Writings.pdf</ref> where he slowely lands in the conclusion of communism, from an entirely different angle, a materialist one, than Hess. Marx writes that he was influenced not only by Hess, but by French and English socialists which were utopian Christians, furthermore by Weitling (the leader of League of the Just founded 1836) and Engels - who together with Hess were the only Germans to translate French communist ideas into German.<ref>https://philarchive.org/archive/KOVMHM<nowiki/>Economic Manuscripts (1844)

	"It goes without saying that besided the French and English socialists, I have also used German socialist works. The only ''original'' German works of substance in this science, however, - other than Weitling's writings - are the essays by ''Hess...'' and Engels"</ref> While Hess definitely influenced both on the subject of money and alienation by loss of communal property, the narrative is deeply misconstrued. Hess came to his conclusion from a theological perspective, money as separation from god, while Marx and Engels where materialists. Furthermore, when Marx and Engels wrote the communist manifesto, they would critique Hess's utopian form of communism. '''Verdict''': False		"It goes without saying that besided the French and English socialists, I have also used German socialist works. The only ''original'' German works of substance in this science, however, - other than Weitling's writings - are the essays by ''Hess...'' and Engels"</ref> While Hess definitely influenced both on the subject of money and alienation by loss of communal property, the narrative is deeply misconstrued. Hess came to his conclusion from a theological perspective, money as separation from god, while Marx and Engels where materialists. Furthermore, when Marx and Engels wrote the communist manifesto, they would critique Hess's utopian form of communism. '''Verdict''': False

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"Hess converted them to communism and assisted them with their work The Communist Manifesto"

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	====== "Hess converted them to communism and assisted them with their work The Communist Manifesto" ======		====== "Hess converted them to communism and assisted them with their work The Communist Manifesto" ======
	Hess first came into contact with Marx in ~~1942~~ - working together on a newspaper in the intellectual, communist environment of Paris - and their relationship was quite the opposite, Marx was the teacher of Hess.<ref>"[Marx] goes beyond Strauss and even beyond Feuerbach . . . Such a man I always wanted to have as my teacher in philosophy. Only now do I feel what an idiot in philosophy have I been. But patience! I will still learn something. Dr Marx – this is the name of my idol" - A letter to Berthold Auerbach by Moses Hess		Hess first came into contact with Marx in 1842 - working together on a newspaper in the intellectual, communist environment of Paris - and their relationship was quite the opposite, Marx was the teacher of Hess.<ref>"[Marx] goes beyond Strauss and even beyond Feuerbach . . . Such a man I always wanted to have as my teacher in philosophy. Only now do I feel what an idiot in philosophy have I been. But patience! I will still learn something. Dr Marx – this is the name of my idol" - A letter to Berthold Auerbach by Moses Hess

	https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Marx early writings are available here,<ref>https://files.libcom.org/files/Marx-Early-Writings.pdf</ref> where he slowely lands in the conclusion of communism, from an entirely different angle, a materialist one, than Hess. Marx writes that he was influenced not only by Hess, but by French and English socialists which were utopian Christians, furthermore by Weitling and Engels - who together with Hess were the only Germans to translate French communist ideas into German.<ref>https://philarchive.org/archive/KOVMHM<nowiki/>Economic Manuscripts (1844)		https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Marx early writings are available here,<ref>https://files.libcom.org/files/Marx-Early-Writings.pdf</ref> where he slowely lands in the conclusion of communism, from an entirely different angle, a materialist one, than Hess. Marx writes that he was influenced not only by Hess, but by French and English socialists which were utopian Christians, furthermore by Weitling and Engels - who together with Hess were the only Germans to translate French communist ideas into German.<ref>https://philarchive.org/archive/KOVMHM<nowiki/>Economic Manuscripts (1844)

	"It goes without saying that besided the French and English socialists, I have also used German socialist works. The only ''original'' German works of substance in this science, however, - other than Weitling's writings - are the essays by ''Hess...'' and Engels"</ref> While Hess definitely influenced both on the subject of money and alienation by loss of communal property, the narrative is deeply misconstrued. Hess came to his conclusion from a theological perspective, money as separation from god, while Marx and Engels where materialists. Furthermore, when Marx and Engels wrote the communist manifesto, they would critique Hess's utopian form of communism. '''Verdict''': False		"It goes without saying that besided the French and English socialists, I have also used German socialist works. The only ''original'' German works of substance in this science, however, - other than Weitling's writings - are the essays by ''Hess...'' and Engels"</ref> While Hess definitely influenced both on the subject of money and alienation by loss of communal property, the narrative is deeply misconstrued. Hess came to his conclusion from a theological perspective, money as separation from god, while Marx and Engels where materialists. Furthermore, when Marx and Engels wrote the communist manifesto, they would critique Hess's utopian form of communism. '''Verdict''': False

	===== Claim (06:40): Marx openly encouraged genocide against Slavs, referring to them as "racial trash". =====		===== Claim (06:40): Marx openly encouraged genocide against Slavs, referring to them as "racial trash". =====

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	'''Europa: The Last Battle''' is a ten-part series made by Swedish neo-Nazi Tobias Bratt. It is focused on Nazi apologia, historical revisionism and conspiracy theories about ~~jews~~ and ~~communism~~. It's composed of wholly unfounded and sourceless claims mixed in with known historical facts, which makes it hard for the average person to seperate truth from falsehood. Normally, sourceless claims can be dissmissed without investigation, but since it's widely cited by neo-Nazis on the internet, we have taken it upon ourselves to take every claim seriously and investigate it as if it were true.		'''Europa: The Last Battle''' is a ten-part series made by Swedish neo-Nazi Tobias Bratt. It is focused on Nazi apologia, historical revisionism and conspiracy theories about Jews and [[Communism]]. It's composed of wholly unfounded and sourceless claims mixed in with known historical facts, which makes it hard for the average person to seperate truth from falsehood. Normally, sourceless claims can be dissmissed without investigation, but since it's widely cited by neo-Nazis on the internet, we have taken it upon ourselves to take every claim seriously and investigate it as if it were true.

	All good propaganda contains a grain of truth. To lie is very easy, but the truth requires close study. We in the infrared collective are commited to the final and most complete truth. This page will serve as a master page for '''debunking Europa: The Last Battle.''' This time, with real sources.		All good propaganda contains a grain of truth. To lie is very easy, but the truth requires close study. We in the infrared collective are commited to the final and most complete truth. This page will serve as a master page for '''debunking Europa: The Last Battle.''' This time, with real sources.

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	'''Europa: The Last Battle''' is a ten-part series made by ~~swedish neonazi~~ Tobias Bratt. It is focused on Nazi apologia, historical revisionism and conspiracy theories about jews and communism. It's composed of wholly unfounded and sourceless claims mixed in with known historical facts, which makes it hard for the average person to seperate truth from falsehood. Normally, sourceless claims can be dissmissed without investigation, but since it's widely cited by neo-Nazis on the internet, we have taken it upon ourselves to take every claim seriously and investigate it as if it were true.		'''Europa: The Last Battle''' is a ten-part series made by Swedish neo-Nazi Tobias Bratt. It is focused on Nazi apologia, historical revisionism and conspiracy theories about jews and communism. It's composed of wholly unfounded and sourceless claims mixed in with known historical facts, which makes it hard for the average person to seperate truth from falsehood. Normally, sourceless claims can be dissmissed without investigation, but since it's widely cited by neo-Nazis on the internet, we have taken it upon ourselves to take every claim seriously and investigate it as if it were true.

	All good propaganda contains a grain of truth. To lie is very easy, but the truth requires close study. We in the infrared collective are commited to the final and most complete truth. This page will serve as a master page for '''debunking Europa: The Last Battle.''' This time, with real sources.		All good propaganda contains a grain of truth. To lie is very easy, but the truth requires close study. We in the infrared collective are commited to the final and most complete truth. This page will serve as a master page for '''debunking Europa: The Last Battle.''' This time, with real sources.

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	===== Claim (17:47): The Federal Reserve was now controlled by jews, Warburg, Schiff and the Rothschilds =====		===== Claim (17:47): The Federal Reserve was now controlled by jews, Warburg, Schiff and the Rothschilds =====
	As of 2018, the two largest holders by far are Citibank, formerly National City Bank of the Rockefellers, with 42.8% of shares, and JPMorgan Chase, with 29.5%.		As of 2018, the two largest holders of the New York Fed by far are Citibank, formerly National City Bank of the Rockefellers, with 42.8% of shares, and JPMorgan Chase, with 29.5%.

	===== Claim (17:50): Every federal reserve chairman since 1980 has been jewish =====		===== Claim (17:50): Every federal reserve chairman since 1980 has been jewish =====

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	'''Europa: The Last Battle''' is a ten-part series made by Swedish neo-Nazi Tobias Bratt. It is focused on [[Nazi]] apologia, [[historical revisionism]] and conspiracy theories about Jews and [[Communism]]. It's composed of wholly unfounded and sourceless claims mixed in with known historical facts, which makes it hard for the average person to separate truth from falsehood. Normally, source-less claims can be dismissed without investigation, but since it's widely cited by neo-Nazis on the internet, we have taken it upon ourselves to take every claim seriously and investigate it as if it were true.		'''Europa: The Last Battle''' is a ten-part series made by Swedish neo-Nazi Tobias Bratt. It is focused on [[Nazi]] apologia, [[historical revisionism]] and conspiracy theories about Jews [[Judeo-Bolshevism\|and]] [[Communism]]. It's composed of wholly unfounded and sourceless claims mixed in with known historical facts, which makes it hard for the average person to separate truth from falsehood. Normally, source-less claims can be dismissed without investigation, but since it's widely cited by neo-Nazis on the internet, we have taken it upon ourselves to take every claim seriously and investigate it as if it were true.

	All good propaganda contains a grain of truth. To lie is very easy, but the truth requires close study. We in the Infrared Collective are committed to the final and most complete truth. This page will serve as a master page for '''debunking Europa: The Last Battle.''' This time, with real sources.		All good propaganda contains a grain of truth. To lie is very easy, but the truth requires close study. We in the Infrared Collective are committed to the final and most complete truth. This page will serve as a master page for '''debunking Europa: The Last Battle.''' This time, with real sources.
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	====== "Karl Marx and Engels were Jewish" ======		====== "Karl Marx and Engels were Jewish" ======
	Engels was not Jewish, his lineage is accessible here.<ref>https://www.geni.com/people/Friedrich-Engels/6000000008380892494 </ref> The father of Karl Marx was a Jew by birth, however he converted to Christianity to pursue a law career. Marx, at the time 6 years old, was also converted. Simultaneously, Marx has been accused of antisemitism for his writings on the Jewish question, which shows the complete retardation of speculative, non-material ideology. '''Verdict:''' False		Engels was not Jewish, his lineage is accessible here.<ref>https://www.geni.com/people/Friedrich-Engels/6000000008380892494 </ref> The father of Karl Marx was a Jew by birth, however he converted to Christianity to pursue a law career. Marx, at the time 6 years old, was also converted. Simultaneously, Marx has been accused of antisemitism for his writings on the [[Jewish question]], which shows the complete retardation of speculative, non-material ideology. '''Verdict:''' False

	====== "Karl Marx real name was Mordechai Levy" ======		====== "Karl Marx real name was Mordechai Levy" ======
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	===== The Bolshevik revolution (20:05) =====		===== The Bolshevik revolution (20:05) =====
			: See also: [[Judeo-Bolshevism]]

	We have already spent a significant amount of time debunking this. Resources for editors:		We have already spent a significant amount of time debunking this. Resources for editors:

	[https://mischrev.substack.com/p/judeo-bolshevism Judeo-Bolshevism: Fact from Fiction] ~~\| [[Judeo-Bolshevism]] \|~~ [https://twitter.com/rtsgtm/status/1739426154065391748 THE MYTH OF “JEWISH” BOLSHEVISM DESTROYED - MASTER THREAD]		* [https://mischrev.substack.com/p/judeo-bolshevism Judeo-Bolshevism: Fact from Fiction]
			* [https://twitter.com/rtsgtm/status/1739426154065391748 THE MYTH OF “JEWISH” BOLSHEVISM DESTROYED - MASTER THREAD]

	===== Claim (20:20): According to state department documents, a group of Jews, including Jacob Schiff, Felix Warburg, '''Otto [Hermann] Kahn, Mortimer L. Schiff, Issac Zeelman, already planned the overthrow of the russian tsar in 1916. They decided that Russia should be destroyed, and a communist slave regime should be implemented''' =====		===== Claim (20:20): According to state department documents, a group of Jews, including Jacob Schiff, Felix Warburg, '''Otto [Hermann] Kahn, Mortimer L. Schiff, Issac Zeelman, already planned the overthrow of the russian tsar in 1916. They decided that Russia should be destroyed, and a communist slave regime should be implemented''' =====

			: See also: [[Judeo-Bolshevism]]

	This claim has it's origins in a report titled ''"Bolshevism and Judaism"'' dated November 30, 1918. The report details the belief that the planning for the Bolshevik Revolution first began in February 1916, with the help of four prominent Jewish bankers. The author is identified only as a "Top Secret Informant", and a sum total of zero sources are cited.<ref>“Bolshevism and Judaism,” November 30, 1918, 10110-920		This claim has it's origins in a report titled ''"Bolshevism and Judaism"'' dated November 30, 1918. The report details the belief that the planning for the Bolshevik Revolution first began in February 1916, with the help of four prominent Jewish bankers. The author is identified only as a "Top Secret Informant", and a sum total of zero sources are cited.<ref>“Bolshevism and Judaism,” November 30, 1918, 10110-920

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	===== Claim (20:51): [Communism was] funded by Jewish bankers... and manifested by Jewish Bolsheviks: Vladimir Lenin, Trotsky, Kaganovich, Yagoda. =====		===== Claim (20:51): [Communism was] funded by Jewish bankers... and manifested by Jewish Bolsheviks: Vladimir Lenin, Trotsky, Kaganovich, Yagoda. =====
			: See also: [[Judeo-Bolshevism]]

	This section is specifically targeting the claim that Lenin was Jewish.		This section is specifically targeting the claim that Lenin was Jewish.

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	"Schiff's gripe against Russia had been its anti-Semitism. At home Schiff had never shown any sympathy for socialism, not even the milder Morris Hillquit variety. Schiff had declared victory for his purposes in Russia after the tsar was toppled in March 1917 and Alexander Kerensky, representing the new provisional government, had declared Jews to be equal citizens. In addition to repeated public statements of support, he used both his personal wealth and the resources of Kuhn Loeb to float large loans to Kerensky's regime. When Lenin and Trotsky seized power for themselves in November 1917, '''Schiff''' immediately rejected them, cut off further loans, '''started funding anti-Bolshevist groups''', and even demanded that the Bolsheviks pay back some of the money he'd loaned Kerensky. Schiff also joined a British-backed effort to appeal to fellow Jews in Russia to continue the fight against Germany." - Ackerman, Kenneth (2016). Trotsky in New York, 1917: A Radical on the Eve of Revolution.<ref>https://www.marxists.org/chinese/trotsky/trotsky-in-new-york-1917/27.htm</ref>		"Schiff's gripe against Russia had been its anti-Semitism. At home Schiff had never shown any sympathy for socialism, not even the milder Morris Hillquit variety. Schiff had declared victory for his purposes in Russia after the tsar was toppled in March 1917 and Alexander Kerensky, representing the new provisional government, had declared Jews to be equal citizens. In addition to repeated public statements of support, he used both his personal wealth and the resources of Kuhn Loeb to float large loans to Kerensky's regime. When Lenin and Trotsky seized power for themselves in November 1917, '''Schiff''' immediately rejected them, cut off further loans, '''started funding anti-Bolshevist groups''', and even demanded that the Bolsheviks pay back some of the money he'd loaned Kerensky. Schiff also joined a British-backed effort to appeal to fellow Jews in Russia to continue the fight against Germany." - Ackerman, Kenneth (2016). Trotsky in New York, 1917: A Radical on the Eve of Revolution.<ref>https://www.marxists.org/chinese/trotsky/trotsky-in-new-york-1917/27.htm</ref>

	Jacob Schiff is often invoked in judeobolshevik conspiracy theories, with intentional lying employed about sources meant to support the claims. For example in: In "''Men who are making America''", page 335, it reads that Schiff once donated $100 000 to a set up a war relief hospital in Russia,<ref>https://archive.org/details/menwhoaremaking00forbgoog/page/n425/mode/2up</ref> in summer of 1917 before the October revolution had occurred. Gary Allen cited the same page in his book "''None Dare Call it Conspiracy"'' and used it to support the claim that Schiff gave a donation of $10 million to the bolsheviks.<ref>https://www.heritage-history.com/index.php?c=read&author=allen&book=none&story=bankroll#:~:text=later%20married%20Trotsky.%22-,Schiff,-spent%20millions%20to<nowiki/>The claim:		Jacob Schiff is often invoked in [[Judeo-Bolshevism\|judeobolshevik]] conspiracy theories, with intentional lying employed about sources meant to support the claims. For example in: In "''Men who are making America''", page 335, it reads that Schiff once donated $100 000 to a set up a war relief hospital in Russia,<ref>https://archive.org/details/menwhoaremaking00forbgoog/page/n425/mode/2up</ref> in summer of 1917 before the October revolution had occurred. Gary Allen cited the same page in his book "''None Dare Call it Conspiracy"'' and used it to support the claim that Schiff gave a donation of $10 million to the bolsheviks.<ref>https://www.heritage-history.com/index.php?c=read&author=allen&book=none&story=bankroll#:~:text=later%20married%20Trotsky.%22-,Schiff,-spent%20millions%20to<nowiki/>The claim:

	"Schiff spent millions to overthrow the Czar and more millions to overthrow Kerensky. He was sending money to Russia long after the true character of the Bolsheviks was known to the world. Schiff raised $10 million, supposedly for Jewish war relief in Russia, but later events revealed it to be a good business investment. (Forbes , B.C., ''Men Who Are Making America'', pp. 334-5.)"</ref>		"Schiff spent millions to overthrow the Czar and more millions to overthrow Kerensky. He was sending money to Russia long after the true character of the Bolsheviks was known to the world. Schiff raised $10 million, supposedly for Jewish war relief in Russia, but later events revealed it to be a good business investment. (Forbes , B.C., ''Men Who Are Making America'', pp. 334-5.)"</ref>