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	Mongol Modernity is, simply put, the modern legacy of the Mongol ~~Empire~~ and ~~all that came with and from it's existence~~.		Mongol Modernity is, simply put, the modern legacy of the Mongols, the connection between Mongol civilization and modernity.

	According to Haz:		According to Haz:

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	Mongols created the modern world. Modern Europe was the peninsula of Mongol Eurasia.[https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1724106598384103808?t=NNLKsuFN6aLbWiXSV7fDyA&s=19]</blockquote>		Mongols created the modern world. Modern Europe was the peninsula of Mongol Eurasia.[https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1724106598384103808?t=NNLKsuFN6aLbWiXSV7fDyA&s=19]</blockquote>
	==Russia's Relation to Mongol Modernity==		==Russia's Relation to Mongol Modernity: A Short Essay by Haz Al-Din==

	People should appreciate that Russia is not simply a 'nation.' It is the center of the Eurasian resistance against 500 years of colonial hegemony.		People should appreciate that Russia is not simply a 'nation.' It is the center of the Eurasian resistance against 500 years of colonial hegemony.

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	The European enlightenment was the subjective, conscious articulation of what the Mongols already did objectively.		The European enlightenment was the subjective, conscious articulation of what the Mongols already did objectively.

	Mongols created the modern world. Modern Europe was the peninsula of Mongol Eurasia.~~</blockquote>~~[https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1724106598384103808?t=NNLKsuFN6aLbWiXSV7fDyA&s=19]		Mongols created the modern world. Modern Europe was the peninsula of Mongol Eurasia.[https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1724106598384103808?t=NNLKsuFN6aLbWiXSV7fDyA&s=19]</blockquote>

	==Russia's Relation to Mongol Modernity==		==Russia's Relation to Mongol Modernity==

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	The Mongols formed the basis of modernity.		<blockquote>The Mongols formed the basis of modernity.

	* They concluded the nomadic-sedentary dialectic of civilization.		* They concluded the nomadic-sedentary dialectic of civilization.
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	The European enlightenment was the subjective, conscious articulation of what the Mongols already did objectively.		The European enlightenment was the subjective, conscious articulation of what the Mongols already did objectively.

	Mongols created the modern world. Modern Europe was the peninsula of Mongol Eurasia.[https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1724106598384103808?t=NNLKsuFN6aLbWiXSV7fDyA&s=19]		Mongols created the modern world. Modern Europe was the peninsula of Mongol Eurasia.</blockquote>[https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1724106598384103808?t=NNLKsuFN6aLbWiXSV7fDyA&s=19]

	==Russia's Relation to Mongol Modernity==		==Russia's Relation to Mongol Modernity==

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	~~From How Asian Empires Were Socialist~~		Mongol Modernity is, simply put, the modern legacy of the Mongol Empire and all that came with and from it's existence.

	The Mongol Empire produced the universal state by establishing a definite universalism. Definite in the sense that the Mongol Empire laid claim to the whole world but more importantly was able to measure and account for this universality. Unique to the Mongol Empire and where the notion of Mongol Modernity arises was in the fact that the Mongol Empire was an empire of end times - a final universal abstraction of immediate social bonds. Before this modernity, precedent and indefinite universality saw common sociality expounded by a sublime state - the fundamental unity of people. Essentially these previous civilizations abstracted peoples ways of life into a common social substance in the form of a sublime state which would anchor the mode of production in order to reproduce these common social bonds. It is important to note the relation between economy and the fundamental unit of civilization as the etymology of economy is from the Greek word okionomia; the combination of oikos (house) and nemein (management). Where the Mongol Empire differs from this precedent and indefinite universality is that this abstraction of common sociality from its immediate social bonds was instantiated into the state itself; becoming a permanent abstract universality in regards to society. Moreover the Mongol Empire used this basis of a final universal abstraction to measure and account for itself thus arriving at a definite universality which has both a beginning and end. It is from this definite universality which in where certainty arises and thus paving the way for the paradigm of the modern era. This explicitly relates to socialism as before the Mongol Empire, common sociality was a given, however in the modern era this sociality is made intelligible and subjected to scientific thought.		According to Haz:

			The Mongols formed the basis of modernity.

			* They concluded the nomadic-sedentary dialectic of civilization.
			* They created abstract geopolitical space as we know it.
			* Secular political metaphysics
			* Abstract political universalism
			* Absolute permeance of state authority as premise of civil society, e.g. Fiat currency
			* Silk Road, world economy
			* Universal mutual recognition of different peoples, cultures, religions and civilizations
			* Eschatological statehood - the state as 'end times,' the 'ends' of the world, society and humanity. (Legacy of this seen in the successive Islamic and Russian Empires)

			The Italian Renaissance was a subjective response to the Europe's exposure to Mongol universalism via the silk road.

			The European enlightenment was the subjective, conscious articulation of what the Mongols already did objectively.

			Mongols created the modern world. Modern Europe was the peninsula of Mongol Eurasia.[https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1724106598384103808?t=NNLKsuFN6aLbWiXSV7fDyA&s=19]

			==Russia's Relation to Mongol Modernity==

			People should appreciate that Russia is not simply a 'nation.' It is the center of the Eurasian resistance against 500 years of colonial hegemony.

			The Soviet era, founded on the overthrow of the Westernized Romanov elites, was only the first chapter in the history of this resistance.

			Many believed that with the end of the Soviet Union, Russia would simply capitulate to the global hegemony, as one 'nation' among others.

			But Russia, regardless of its ruling ideology, could not possibly integrate into this 'new world order,' for the same reason Iran and China cannot.

			The origin of the colonial world order lies in the rise of capitalism, the enlightenment, and modernity.

			But Russia is attached to the legacy of a completely different world order, and a different, now lost and forgotten enlightenment & modernity.

			The world was united into a single universal order long before the European enlightenment. Stretched across the vast silk road, the Mongols completed the enclosure of all Eurasia, the last great nomadic revolution against the arrogance of sedentary civilization.

			They finally established the precedent of universal political order, world empires founded upon a notion of the absolute, and which reigned over the end of times itself - long before Hegel and Fukayama.

			After the dissolution of the Mongol Empire, it's successor states, which modern Russia can trace its origins to, were universal civilizations which operated under an entirely different paradigm of governance, parochial identity, communal values, territorial sovereignty, and economic development.

			They created the foundation of universal civilization at the material level.

			Unfortunately, none were able to truly reflect upon these foundations in an appropriate manner, and so over time the original spark of historical brilliance eventually faded into obscurity.

			It was in the West, via the Italian Renaissance and protestant revolution, that the fruits of the material foundation laid by Eurasia could be reaped. The silk road, reaching Venice first, exposed Europe to all the splendors of lost Eurasia.

			And precisely because Europe was outside of the political conflict that plagued universal Eurasia from within, while simultaneously reaping the fruits of the newly formed world market created by it,

			It could independently appraise the significance of the Mongol revolution indirectly, leading to Renaissance humanism, ideological universalism, modern science and technology as we know it.

			This is what allowed Europe to eventually conquer and enslave the world.

			But something was lost in translation. Europe failed to complete the Mongol revolution, because at every turn it tried to suppress its origins.

			Every great benefit Europe bequeathed to humanity was turned into its opposite.

			Universal humanistic enlightenment also accompanied colonialism, racialism, slavery and genocide.

			The steam engine also gave rise to modern capitalism, exploitation and ruinous destruction of communal values on a mass scale.

			Technology also gave rise to terrible weapons of war, used for all manner of theft, murder, genocide, and villainy on a mass scale.

			Political enlightenment and the universal equality of man, also accompanied the universal degradation of man.

			Enlightenment turned into its opposite: Jahiliyyah, ignorance and forgetfulness on a mass scale.

			The erasure of mankind's history, traditional civilizations and cultures on a mass scale.

			Philistinism, dumbing-down, and the institutionalized stupidity we see today.

			Eurasia is now experiencing its second revolution. And it is doing so to reclaim the lost and missed enlightenment of mankind. It was Marxism which was precisely the first awakening to this lost enlightenment.

			Russia, China and Iran don't hate the West.

			They are only participating in the great restoration of history on a global scale, including the restoration of the West's own lost historical existence.

			They lead the world to its forgotten beginning.[https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1773097448627478713?t=p7H29L3ZNWXsLyf6AA16PA&s=19]

			=="How Asian Empires Were Socialist"==

			The Mongol Empire produced the universal state by establishing a definite universalism. Definite in the sense that the Mongol Empire laid claim to the whole world but more importantly was able to measure and account for this universality. Unique to the Mongol Empire and where the notion of Mongol Modernity arises was in the fact that the Mongol Empire was an empire of end times - a final universal abstraction of immediate social bonds. Before this modernity, precedent and indefinite universality saw common sociality expounded by a sublime state - the fundamental unity of people. Essentially these previous civilizations abstracted peoples ways of life into a common social substance in the form of a sublime state which would anchor the mode of production in order to reproduce these common social bonds. It is important to note the relation between economy and the fundamental unit of civilization as the etymology of economy is from the Greek word okionomia; the combination of oikos (house) and nemein (management). Where the Mongol Empire differs from this precedent and indefinite universality is that this abstraction of common sociality from its immediate social bonds was instantiated into the state itself; becoming a permanent abstract universality in regards to society. Moreover the Mongol Empire used this basis of a final universal abstraction to measure and account for itself thus arriving at a definite universality which has both a beginning and end. It is from this definite universality which in where certainty arises and thus paving the way for the paradigm of the modern era. This explicitly relates to socialism as before the Mongol Empire, common sociality was a given, however in the modern era this sociality is made intelligible and subjected to scientific thought.[https://youtu.be/RBWNgTUFSG4?si=H-DCuv0so9AK9evR]

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The Mongol Empire produced the universal state by establishing a definite universalism. Definite in the sense that the Mongol Empire laid claim to the whole world but more importantly was able to measure and account for this universality. Unique to the Mongol Empire and where the notion of Mongol Modernity arises was in the fact that the Mongol Empire was an empire of end times - a final universal abstraction of immediate social bonds. Before this modernity, precedent and indefinite universality saw common sociality expounded by a sublime state - the fundamental unity of people. Essentially these previous civilizations abstracted peoples ways of life into a common social substance in the form of a sublime state which would anchor the mode of production in order to reproduce these common social bonds. It is important to note the relation between economy and the fundamental unit of civilization as the etymology of economy is from the Greek word okionomia; the combination of oikos (house) and nemein (management). Where the Mongol Empire differs from this precedent and indefinite universality is that this abstraction of common sociality from its immediate social bonds was instantiated into the state itself; becoming a permanent abstract universality in regards to society. Moreover the Mongol Empire used this basis of a final universal abstraction to measure and account for itself thus arriving at a definite universality which has both a beginning and end. It is from this definite universality which in where certainty arises and thus paving the way for the paradigm of the modern era. This explicitly relates to socialism as before the Mongol Empire, common sociality was a given, however in the modern era this sociality is made intelligible and subjected to scientific thought.