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	'''Murray Rothbard''' ~~is the guy whose name lives in the bio of every Twitter libertarian who's never read him~~ — the Austrian School radicalized into "anarcho"-capitalism, i.e., feudalism with a branding budget.		'''Murray Rothbard''' — the Austrian School radicalized into "anarcho"-capitalism, i.e., feudalism with a branding budget — lives mainly in the bios of Twitter libertarians who've never read him.

	== In Haz's usage ==		== In Haz's usage ==
	Rothbard ~~shows up as a marker for~~ the online-libertarian type ~~Haz distinguishes~~ from real libertarians:		Rothbard marks the online-libertarian type, distinguished from real libertarians:

	> "I don't mean some anime profile picture on Twitter talking about Rothbard... I mean people who believe in the Second Amendment, targeted by the FBI throughout the 1990s, blamed for Oklahoma City" ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/fqsih0ynb7e/ Kanye's CHALLENGE to MAGA and Trump stream]).		> "I don't mean some anime profile picture on Twitter talking about Rothbard... I mean people who believe in the Second Amendment, targeted by the FBI throughout the 1990s, blamed for Oklahoma City" ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/fqsih0ynb7e/ Kanye's CHALLENGE to MAGA and Trump stream]).
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	In debate, when an opponent appeals to "modern economists — Mises, Rothbard," Haz corrects the taxonomy: the Austrians aren't "modern" by anyone's classification, and their "debunking" of the labor theory of value only works inside frameworks built after Marx specifically to avoid him ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/948c3a09-3f57-4dd1-ba7c-447cccbd57b9/ Victory is ours stream]).		In debate, when an opponent appeals to "modern economists — Mises, Rothbard," Haz corrects the taxonomy: the Austrians aren't "modern" by anyone's classification, and their "debunking" of the labor theory of value only works inside frameworks built after Marx specifically to avoid him ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/948c3a09-3f57-4dd1-ba7c-447cccbd57b9/ Victory is ours stream]).

	The lived tradition ~~Haz respects~~ — militia, homestead, anti-federal-surveillance — is worth organizing; the Rothbard fan club is not ([[Hans Hermann-Hoppe]], [[Ludwig von Mises]]).		The lived tradition — militia, homestead, anti-federal-surveillance — is worth organizing; the Rothbard fan club is not ([[Hans Hermann-Hoppe]], [[Ludwig von Mises]]).

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	'''Murray Rothbard''' — the Austrian School~~'s radicalizer~~ into anarcho-capitalism ~~— appears in Haz Al-Din's usage mainly as~~ a ~~marker of the online-libertarian type he distinguishes from the real libertarian tradition~~.		'''Murray Rothbard''' is the guy whose name lives in the bio of every Twitter libertarian who's never read him — the Austrian School radicalized into "anarcho"-capitalism, i.e., feudalism with a branding budget.

	== ~~From the streams~~ ==		== In Haz's usage ==
	* In debate ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/~~kick~~/infrared/~~948c3a09-3f57-4dd1-ba7c-447cccbd57b9~~/ ~~Victory is ours~~ stream]), an opponent appeals to "modern economists — Mises, Rothbard": Haz corrects the taxonomy (Austrians aren't "modern" by ~~the discipline~~'s classification) and ~~holds the line that~~ the labor theory of value ~~stands; the "debunking" happens~~ only inside frameworks ~~constructed~~ after Marx.		Rothbard shows up as a marker for the online-libertarian type Haz distinguishes from real libertarians:
	* On libertarianism's real lineage ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/~~youtube~~/infrared/~~fqsih0ynb7e~~/ ~~Kanye's CHALLENGE to MAGA and Trump~~ stream])~~: "I don't mean some anime profile picture on Twitter talking about Rothbard~~.~~.. I mean people who believe in the Second Amendment, targeted by the FBI throughout the 1990s, blamed for Oklahoma City."~~ The ~~book-ideology (via Hayek's Road to Serfdom) diffused into identity; the~~ lived tradition ~~was~~ militia, homestead, anti-federal-surveillance — ~~a constituency MAGA Communism courts~~, ~~not mocks~~.
			> "I don't mean some anime profile picture on Twitter talking about Rothbard... I mean people who believe in the Second Amendment, targeted by the FBI throughout the 1990s, blamed for Oklahoma City" ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/fqsih0ynb7e/ Kanye's CHALLENGE to MAGA and Trump stream]).

			In debate, when an opponent appeals to "modern economists — Mises, Rothbard," Haz corrects the taxonomy: the Austrians aren't "modern" by anyone's classification, and their "debunking" of the labor theory of value only works inside frameworks built after Marx specifically to avoid him ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/948c3a09-3f57-4dd1-ba7c-447cccbd57b9/ Victory is ours stream]).

			The lived tradition Haz respects — militia, homestead, anti-federal-surveillance — is worth organizing; the Rothbard fan club is not ([[Hans Hermann-Hoppe]], [[Ludwig von Mises]]).

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[~~Hans Hermann-Hoppe]]~~		* [[Economic Calculation Problem]]
	* [[Ludwig von Mises]]

	== References ==		== References ==

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	'''Murray N. Rothbard''' ~~(1926–1995) was an American economist and polymath who fused~~ Austrian ~~economics with natural-law ethics to create ''~~'anarcho-capitalism'~~'' —~~ the ~~doctrine that all state functions, including law and defense, can and should be supplied by private competition~~.		'''Murray Rothbard''' — the Austrian School's radicalizer into anarcho-capitalism — appears in Haz Al-Din's usage mainly as a marker of the online-libertarian type he distinguishes from the real libertarian tradition.

	== ~~System~~ ==		== From the streams ==
	* ~~Ethics~~: ~~self~~-~~ownership plus homesteading generates absolute property rights; taxation~~ is ~~theft;~~ the ~~state is a criminal gang writ large~~ (''~~The Ethics~~ of ~~Liberty'', 1982)~~.		* In debate ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/948c3a09-3f57-4dd1-ba7c-447cccbd57b9/ Victory is ours stream]), an opponent appeals to "modern economists — Mises, Rothbard": Haz corrects the taxonomy (Austrians aren't "modern" by the discipline's classification) and holds the line that the labor theory of value stands; the "debunking" happens only inside frameworks constructed after Marx.
	* ~~Economics~~: ~~Man, Economy, and State (1962) systematized Mises; his history of economic thought attacked all non~~-~~Austrian schools as error~~.		* On libertarianism's real lineage ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/fqsih0ynb7e/ Kanye's CHALLENGE to MAGA and Trump stream]): "I don't mean some anime profile picture on Twitter talking about Rothbard... I mean people who believe in the Second Amendment, targeted by the FBI throughout the 1990s, blamed for Oklahoma City." The book-ideology (via Hayek's Road to Serfdom) diffused into identity; the lived tradition was militia, homestead, anti-federal-surveillance — a constituency MAGA Communism courts, not mocks.
	* History: ''America's ~~Great Depression~~'~~' blamed the Fed; revisionist works opposed the military-industrial state~~.

	~~== Strange career ==~~
	~~Rothbard moved from Cold War rightism through anti-war alliance with~~ the ~~New Left (1960s)~~, ~~founded~~ the ~~Libertarian Party movement~~, ~~later embraced~~ "~~paleo~~-~~libertarian" strategy — allying libertarians with cultural conservatives and courting red-brown-style fusion against the managerial state. His strategy papers anticipate today~~'s ~~populist~~-~~right/libertarian convergences.~~

	~~== Critique ==~~
	~~Anarcho~~-~~capitalism, Marxists argue~~, is not anarchism but the fantasy of feudalized private sovereignty — rentier enclaves with private law. It abstracts from class power entirely: contract replaces coercion only if property distribution is just, which homesteading mythology assumes away.

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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'''Murray N. Rothbard''' (1926–1995) was an American economist and polymath who fused Austrian economics with natural-law ethics to create '''anarcho-capitalism''' — the doctrine that all state functions, including law and defense, can and should be supplied by private competition.

== System ==
* Ethics: self-ownership plus homesteading generates absolute property rights; taxation is theft; the state is a criminal gang writ large (''The Ethics of Liberty'', 1982).
* Economics: Man, Economy, and State (1962) systematized Mises; his history of economic thought attacked all non-Austrian schools as error.
* History: ''America's Great Depression'' blamed the Fed; revisionist works opposed the military-industrial state.

== Strange career ==
Rothbard moved from Cold War rightism through anti-war alliance with the New Left (1960s), founded the Libertarian Party movement, later embraced "paleo-libertarian" strategy — allying libertarians with cultural conservatives and courting red-brown-style fusion against the managerial state. His strategy papers anticipate today's populist-right/libertarian convergences.

== Critique ==
Anarcho-capitalism, Marxists argue, is not anarchism but the fantasy of feudalized private sovereignty — rentier enclaves with private law. It abstracts from class power entirely: contract replaces coercion only if property distribution is just, which homesteading mythology assumes away.

== See also ==
* [[Hans Hermann-Hoppe]]
* [[Ludwig von Mises]]

== References ==
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