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	The '''Stalin-Lydia Affair''' is an unsubstantiated historical controversy surrounding [[Joseph Stalin\|Stalin's]] exile to Siberia between 1913-1917, in which bourgeois historians claim that Stalin impregnated 13-year-old Lydia Pereprygina.<ref name=":0">https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1801828255176987134</ref> Ironically, this myth was propagated by pseudo-historian Simon Sebag~~-Montefoire~~, an actual pedophile listed on Epstein's black book.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref><ref>https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted</ref> Today, it is used by low-IQ anti-Communist midwits.		The '''Stalin-Lydia Affair''' is an unsubstantiated historical controversy surrounding [[Joseph Stalin\|Stalin's]] exile to Siberia between 1913-1917, in which bourgeois historians claim that Stalin impregnated 13-year-old Lydia Pereprygina.<ref name=":0">https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1801828255176987134</ref> Ironically, this myth was propagated by pseudo-historian [[Simon Sebag Montefiore]], an actual pedophile listed on Epstein's black book.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref><ref>https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted</ref> Today, it is used by low-IQ anti-Communist midwits.

	==Factual Inconsistencies==		==Factual Inconsistencies==

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	The '''Stalin-Lydia Affair''' ~~was a~~ historical controversy surrounding [[Joseph Stalin\|Stalin's]] exile to Siberia between 1913-1917 in which bourgeois historians claim that Stalin impregnated 13-year-old Lydia Pereprygina.<ref name=":0">https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1801828255176987134</ref> Ironically, this myth was propagated by pseudo-historian Simon Sebag-Montefoire, an actual pedophile listed on Epstein's black book.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref><ref>https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted</ref> Today, it is used by low-IQ anti-Communist midwits.		The '''Stalin-Lydia Affair''' is an unsubstantiated historical controversy surrounding [[Joseph Stalin\|Stalin's]] exile to Siberia between 1913-1917, in which bourgeois historians claim that Stalin impregnated 13-year-old Lydia Pereprygina.<ref name=":0">https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1801828255176987134</ref> Ironically, this myth was propagated by pseudo-historian Simon Sebag-Montefoire, an actual pedophile listed on Epstein's black book.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref><ref>https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted</ref> Today, it is used by low-IQ anti-Communist midwits.

	==~~Quick Debunking~~==		==Factual Inconsistencies==
	In February 1913, the Okhrana began to crack down on the Bolsheviks, arrested ~~Stalin~~ and sent him to exile as Turukhansk'. Worried about future escapes, ~~he was sent~~ to Kureika during Easter 1914<ref>https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=TGvUsBAxTUUC&oi=fnd&pg=PT5&dq=%22By+Easter+1914,+Stalin+had%22&ots=IOU8CTh4Iq&sig=gEvc1Z90KIxqXCzLmEyuaZZ9YTY#v=onepage&q=%22By%20Easter%201914%2C%20Stalin%20had%22&f=false</ref> ~~to live~~ with approximately 67 other villagers, ~~and among them were~~ a family of orphans ~~- the Pereprygins~~. The youngest was Lydia, who was 13 years old at the time. Sometime in December 1914, Lydia ~~gives~~ birth to a child who ~~dies~~ shortly after. In 1917, she ~~gives~~ birth to another child - Alexander Davydov		In February 1913, the Russian secret police, the Okhrana, began to crack down on the Bolsheviks. Stalin was arrested and sent him to exile in Turukhansk, a rural township in Siberia. Worried about future escapes, the Okhrana relocated Stalin to the Arctic village Kureika during Easter 1914.<ref>https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=TGvUsBAxTUUC&oi=fnd&pg=PT5&dq=%22By+Easter+1914,+Stalin+had%22&ots=IOU8CTh4Iq&sig=gEvc1Z90KIxqXCzLmEyuaZZ9YTY#v=onepage&q=%22By%20Easter%201914%2C%20Stalin%20had%22&f=false</ref> There, Stalin lived with approximately 67 other villagers, including the Pereprygins, a family of orphans. The youngest of the Perepygins was Lydia, who was 13 years old at the time. Sometime in December 1914, Lydia gave birth to a child who died shortly after. In 1917, she gave birth to another child, Alexander Davydov.

	~~The claim that is made is that~~ Stalin fathered both children~~, but when looking at~~ the evidence~~, that isn't realistically possible~~. Stalin arrived on April 20th 1914, and since Lydia had a child in December, ~~that~~ would mean ~~she~~ had a pregnancy of 7-8 months. Stalin left Kureika to Krasnoyarsk' in October 1916, but according to official Russian archives, Davydov was born in November 1917.<ref>https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/person-hero122901790/</ref> This means that Lydia should have had the ''longest recorded pregnancy in history -'' at nearly '''400 days.''' ~~Must be pretty convenient going from~~ 7-8 month ~~pregnancies to 13 month ones~~.		According to proponents of the Stalin-Lydia Affair, Stalin fathered both children illegitimately. This is ruled out by the evidence. Because Stalin arrived on April 20th, 1914, and since Lydia had a child sometime that December, the implication of the claim would mean that Lydia had a pregnancy of 7-8 months. Stalin left Kureika for the city of Krasnoyarsk in October 1916, but according to official Russian archives, Davydov was born in November 1917.<ref>https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/person-hero122901790/</ref> This means that Lydia should have had the ''longest recorded pregnancy in history'' at nearly '''400 days.''' A 13 month pregnancy following a 7-8 month pregnancy is statistically unprecedented and unrealistically anomalous.

	~~Most of these claims~~ that Stalin had any intimacy with ~~this~~ child ~~come~~ from ~~random~~ tabloids/newspapers~~, and are not~~ scholarly ~~nor~~ peer-reviewed ~~whatsoever~~.<ref>https://lib.byu.edu/faq/244739/</ref> ~~On the other hand, historian~~ Ronald Suny of the University of Chicago ~~states~~ that any ~~such~~ claim that Stalin was the father of either child ~~can't be confirmed at all~~.<ref>https://www.amazon.com/Stalin-Revolution-Ronald-Grigor-Suny/dp/0691182035</ref> These tabloids themselves admit that Lydia admitted to nothing ~~explicit~~ in her memoirs.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref>		Claims that Stalin had any intimacy with Lydia child primarily derive from tabloids and newspapers without scholarly or peer-reviewed oversight.<ref>https://lib.byu.edu/faq/244739/</ref> Historian Ronald Suny of the University of Chicago has stated that any claim that Stalin was the father of either child is historically unverifiable.<ref>https://www.amazon.com/Stalin-Revolution-Ronald-Grigor-Suny/dp/0691182035</ref> These tabloids themselves admit that Lydia admitted to nothing mentioning a sexual relationship between her and Stalin in her memoirs.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref>

	=== Is the 'DNA Test' accurate? ===		=== Is the 'DNA Test' accurate? ===
	In 2016, son of Alexander ~~Davydov - Yuri~~ Davydov, in tandem with ~~the~~ BioPapa ~~company, had a DNA test done~~ that ~~'proved'~~ with 99.98% certainty that Stalin was his grandfather.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190430000116/https://scandaly.ru/2016/04/07/yuriy-davyidov-moy-ded-iosif-stalin/</ref> However, these tests were not carried out through court, ~~so it isn't~~ legally valid by BioPapa's admission<ref>https://old.asiaplustj.info/ru/news/tajikistan/laworder/20140211/klinika-biopapa-my-ne-stali-riskovat-svoim-avtoritetom</ref>~~. As such, it isn't a clear test according to any real standard whatsoever.~~		In 2016, Yuri Davydov, the son of Alexander Davydov, conducted a DNA test in tandem with BioPapa that purportedly showed with 99.98% certainty that Stalin was his grandfather.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190430000116/https://scandaly.ru/2016/04/07/yuriy-davyidov-moy-ded-iosif-stalin/</ref> However, these tests were not carried out through any legal proceedings or under the purview of any court, and is not legally valid by BioPapa's admission.<ref>https://old.asiaplustj.info/ru/news/tajikistan/laworder/20140211/klinika-biopapa-my-ne-stali-riskovat-svoim-avtoritetom</ref>

	~~Biopapa~~ has also been known to forge results.<ref>https://avesta.tj/2013/11/19/advokaty-obvinili-sledovatelej-vedushhih-delo-zajda-saidova-v-moshennichestve-dopolneno/</ref> The founder of the company ~~himself~~ admits ~~they were~~ offered ~~'heavy~~ bribes' in order to falsify ~~them~~.<ref>https://kontur.ru/articles/2594</ref> In 2013, a Tajik businessman by the name of Zayd Saidov was charged with rape and supposedly was a father to a child, and the court went through BioPapa to have DNA tests done. The prosecution requesting the results from BioPapa claimed the results ~~weren't~~ falsified, but ~~then~~ Saidov ~~couldn't~~ get any repeat results or confirmation~~. Safe to say that BioPapa isn't any legitimate source proving that Davydov was Stalin's son~~.		BioPapa has also been known to forge results.<ref>https://avesta.tj/2013/11/19/advokaty-obvinili-sledovatelej-vedushhih-delo-zajda-saidova-v-moshennichestve-dopolneno/</ref> The founder of the company, Evgenia Koplina, admits that clients occasionally offered substantial bribes in order to falsify DNA results.<ref>https://kontur.ru/articles/2594</ref> In 2013, a Tajik businessman by the name of Zayd Saidov was charged with rape and supposedly was a father to a child, and the court went through BioPapa to have DNA tests done '''[Source Needed]'''. The prosecution requesting the results from BioPapa claimed that the results were not falsified, but Saidov could not get any repeat results or confirmation.


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	The '''Stalin-Lydia Affair''' was a historical controversy surrounding [[Joseph Stalin\|Stalin's]] exile to Siberia between 1913-1917 in which ~~gay retards~~ claim that Stalin impregnated 13-year-old Lydia Pereprygina.<ref name=":0">https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1801828255176987134</ref> Ironically, this myth was propagated by pseudo-historian Simon Sebag-Montefoire, an actual pedophile listed on Epstein's black book.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref><ref>https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted</ref> Today, it is used by low-IQ anti-Communist midwits ~~such as the fervent homosexual and professional debate-dodger<ref>https://x~~.~~com/prax_ben/status/1778518032375062853</ref> [[PraxBen]].<ref name=":0" /><ref>https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1790473433983193577</ref><ref>https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1814321168901370144</ref>~~		The '''Stalin-Lydia Affair''' was a historical controversy surrounding [[Joseph Stalin\|Stalin's]] exile to Siberia between 1913-1917 in which bourgeois historians claim that Stalin impregnated 13-year-old Lydia Pereprygina.<ref name=":0">https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1801828255176987134</ref> Ironically, this myth was propagated by pseudo-historian Simon Sebag-Montefoire, an actual pedophile listed on Epstein's black book.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref><ref>https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted</ref> Today, it is used by low-IQ anti-Communist midwits.

	==Quick Debunking==		==Quick Debunking==
	In February 1913, the Okhrana ~~(coming from the Russian word "Охранять" which means 'to menstruate')~~ began to crack down on the Bolsheviks, arrested Stalin and sent him to exile as Turukhansk'. Worried about future escapes, he was sent to Kureika during Easter 1914<ref>https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=TGvUsBAxTUUC&oi=fnd&pg=PT5&dq=%22By+Easter+1914,+Stalin+had%22&ots=IOU8CTh4Iq&sig=gEvc1Z90KIxqXCzLmEyuaZZ9YTY#v=onepage&q=%22By%20Easter%201914%2C%20Stalin%20had%22&f=false</ref> to live with approximately 67 other villagers, and among them were a family of orphans - the Pereprygins. The youngest was Lydia, who was 13 years old at the time. Sometime in December 1914, Lydia gives birth to a child who dies shortly after. In 1917, she gives birth to another child - Alexander Davydov		In February 1913, the Okhrana began to crack down on the Bolsheviks, arrested Stalin and sent him to exile as Turukhansk'. Worried about future escapes, he was sent to Kureika during Easter 1914<ref>https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=TGvUsBAxTUUC&oi=fnd&pg=PT5&dq=%22By+Easter+1914,+Stalin+had%22&ots=IOU8CTh4Iq&sig=gEvc1Z90KIxqXCzLmEyuaZZ9YTY#v=onepage&q=%22By%20Easter%201914%2C%20Stalin%20had%22&f=false</ref> to live with approximately 67 other villagers, and among them were a family of orphans - the Pereprygins. The youngest was Lydia, who was 13 years old at the time. Sometime in December 1914, Lydia gives birth to a child who dies shortly after. In 1917, she gives birth to another child - Alexander Davydov

	The claim that is made is that Stalin fathered both children, but when looking at the evidence, that isn't realistically possible. Stalin arrived on April 20th 1914, and since Lydia had a child in December, that would mean she had a pregnancy of 7-8 months. Stalin left Kureika to Krasnoyarsk' in October 1916, but according to official Russian archives, Davydov was born in November 1917.<ref>https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/person-hero122901790/</ref> This means that Lydia should have had the ''longest recorded pregnancy in history -'' at nearly '''400 days.''' Must be pretty convenient going from 7-8 month pregnancies to 13 month ones.		The claim that is made is that Stalin fathered both children, but when looking at the evidence, that isn't realistically possible. Stalin arrived on April 20th 1914, and since Lydia had a child in December, that would mean she had a pregnancy of 7-8 months. Stalin left Kureika to Krasnoyarsk' in October 1916, but according to official Russian archives, Davydov was born in November 1917.<ref>https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/person-hero122901790/</ref> This means that Lydia should have had the ''longest recorded pregnancy in history -'' at nearly '''400 days.''' Must be pretty convenient going from 7-8 month pregnancies to 13 month ones.

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The '''Stalin-Lydia Affair''' was a historical controversy surrounding [[Joseph Stalin|Stalin's]] exile to Siberia between 1913-1917 in which gay retards claim that Stalin impregnated 13-year-old Lydia Pereprygina.<ref name=":0">https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1801828255176987134</ref> Ironically, this myth was propagated by pseudo-historian Simon Sebag-Montefoire, an actual pedophile listed on Epstein's black book.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref><ref>https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted</ref> Today, it is used by low-IQ anti-Communist midwits such as the fervent homosexual and professional debate-dodger<ref>https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1778518032375062853</ref> [[PraxBen]].<ref name=":0" /><ref>https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1790473433983193577</ref><ref>https://x.com/prax_ben/status/1814321168901370144</ref>

==Quick Debunking==
In February 1913, the Okhrana (coming from the Russian word "Охранять" which means 'to menstruate') began to crack down on the Bolsheviks, arrested Stalin and sent him to exile as Turukhansk'. Worried about future escapes, he was sent to Kureika during Easter 1914<ref>https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=TGvUsBAxTUUC&oi=fnd&pg=PT5&dq=%22By+Easter+1914,+Stalin+had%22&ots=IOU8CTh4Iq&sig=gEvc1Z90KIxqXCzLmEyuaZZ9YTY#v=onepage&q=%22By%20Easter%201914%2C%20Stalin%20had%22&f=false</ref> to live with approximately 67 other villagers, and among them were a family of orphans - the Pereprygins. The youngest was Lydia, who was 13 years old at the time. Sometime in December 1914, Lydia gives birth to a child who dies shortly after. In 1917, she gives birth to another child - Alexander Davydov

The claim that is made is that Stalin fathered both children, but when looking at the evidence, that isn't realistically possible. Stalin arrived on April 20th 1914, and since Lydia had a child in December, that would mean she had a pregnancy of 7-8 months. Stalin left Kureika to Krasnoyarsk' in October 1916, but according to official Russian archives, Davydov was born in November 1917.<ref>https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/person-hero122901790/</ref> This means that Lydia should have had the ''longest recorded pregnancy in history -'' at nearly '''400 days.''' Must be pretty convenient going from 7-8 month pregnancies to 13 month ones.

Most of these claims that Stalin had any intimacy with this child come from random tabloids/newspapers, and are not scholarly nor peer-reviewed whatsoever.<ref>https://lib.byu.edu/faq/244739/</ref> On the other hand, historian Ronald Suny of the University of Chicago states that any such claim that Stalin was the father of either child can't be confirmed at all.<ref>https://www.amazon.com/Stalin-Revolution-Ronald-Grigor-Suny/dp/0691182035</ref> These tabloids themselves admit that Lydia admitted to nothing explicit in her memoirs.<ref>https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/stalin-and-his-lover-aged-13-6581841.html</ref>

=== Is the 'DNA Test' accurate? ===
In 2016, son of Alexander Davydov - Yuri Davydov, in tandem with the BioPapa company, had a DNA test done that 'proved' with 99.98% certainty that Stalin was his grandfather.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190430000116/https://scandaly.ru/2016/04/07/yuriy-davyidov-moy-ded-iosif-stalin/</ref> However, these tests were not carried out through court, so it isn't legally valid by BioPapa's admission<ref>https://old.asiaplustj.info/ru/news/tajikistan/laworder/20140211/klinika-biopapa-my-ne-stali-riskovat-svoim-avtoritetom</ref>. As such, it isn't a clear test according to any real standard whatsoever.

Biopapa has also been known to forge results.<ref>https://avesta.tj/2013/11/19/advokaty-obvinili-sledovatelej-vedushhih-delo-zajda-saidova-v-moshennichestve-dopolneno/</ref> The founder of the company himself admits they were offered 'heavy bribes' in order to falsify them.<ref>https://kontur.ru/articles/2594</ref> In 2013, a Tajik businessman by the name of Zayd Saidov was charged with rape and supposedly was a father to a child, and the court went through BioPapa to have DNA tests done. The prosecution requesting the results from BioPapa claimed the results weren't falsified, but then Saidov couldn't get any repeat results or confirmation. Safe to say that BioPapa isn't any legitimate source proving that Davydov was Stalin's son.

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