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	'''Teddy Roosevelt''' shows up in Haz's debate sparring over third-party viability.		'''Teddy Roosevelt''' — shows up in Haz's debate sparring over third-party viability.

	== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/black-lenin/zt8xtb4o394/ Haz vs NewYorkDemocrat \| InfraredShow Debate] ==		== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/black-lenin/zt8xtb4o394/ Haz vs NewYorkDemocrat \| InfraredShow Debate] ==
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	> "Who said anything about supporting anything? I'll see you at the voting booth, bro."		> "Who said anything about supporting anything? I'll see you at the voting booth, bro."

	~~== The point ==~~		TR's Bull Moose run is the standing rebuttal to "third parties never win": 27% with real class content. And the debate method on display — flip the opponent's own authorities, concede nothing, keep the frame ([[Andrew Jackson]], [[New Deal]]).
	TR's Bull Moose run is the standing rebuttal to "third parties never win": 27% with real class content. ~~The exchange also shows~~ the debate method — flip the opponent's own authorities, concede nothing, keep the frame ([[Andrew Jackson]], [[New Deal]]).

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	"'''~~"Theodore~~ Roosevelt''' ~~appears~~ in Haz's debate sparring over ~~progressive~~-party ~~history~~.		'''Teddy Roosevelt''' shows up in Haz's debate sparring over third-party viability.

	== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/black-lenin/zt8xtb4o394/ Haz vs NewYorkDemocrat \| InfraredShow Debate] ==		== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/black-lenin/zt8xtb4o394/ Haz vs NewYorkDemocrat \| InfraredShow Debate] ==
	~~Sparring with a~~ Democrat ~~over third-party viability~~:		Democrat: "Third parties — they haven't won anything." Haz: "Do you know who chaired the Progressive Party?... It was Theodore Roosevelt. And in the election of 1912 he gained 27% of the vote — that's more than progressives have ever come to."

	~~> "Do you know who chaired the Progressive Party? ...It was Theodore Roosevelt... In the election of 1912 he gained 27% of the vote — that's more than progressives have ever come to."~~
	> "Wait, are you becoming a Marxist? Biden is now— are you supporting a Democrat?"		> "Wait, are you becoming a Marxist? Biden is now— are you supporting a Democrat?"
	> "Who said anything about supporting anything? I'll see you at the voting booth, bro."		> "Who said anything about supporting anything? I'll see you at the voting booth, bro."

	== The point ==		== The point ==
	TR's Bull Moose run is the standing ~~proof that '''~~third parties with real class content ~~can score''', against the "third parties never win" deflection — and the~~ exchange shows ~~Haz's~~ debate method~~: concede nothing,~~ flip the opponent's authorities, keep the frame ([[Andrew Jackson]], [[New Deal]]).		TR's Bull Moose run is the standing rebuttal to "third parties never win": 27% with real class content. The exchange also shows the debate method — flip the opponent's own authorities, concede nothing, keep the frame ([[Andrew Jackson]], [[New Deal]]).

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	'''Theodore Roosevelt''' ~~(1858–1919), 26th President (1901–1909), is the Progressive~~-~~era embodiment of the strong nationalist state disciplining monopoly — the "Square Deal" president who expanded executive power in the name of the people against both plutocracy and radicalism~~.		"'''"Theodore Roosevelt''' appears in Haz's debate sparring over progressive-party history.

	== ~~Record~~ ==		== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/black-lenin/zt8xtb4o394/ Haz vs NewYorkDemocrat \| InfraredShow Debate] ==
	* Trust-busting (Northern Securities, 1904; Standard Oil, 1911), the Hepburn Act regulating railroads, Pure Food and Drug Act.		Sparring with a Democrat over third-party viability:
	* Conservation: national forests, parks, and monuments on a ~~continental scale — state stewardship of land against speculative plunder.~~
	* Big-~~stick imperialism~~: ~~Panama Canal, Roosevelt Corollary, Great White Fleet — the turn of American nationalism outward.~~
	* 1912 Bull Moose run: social insurance, women's suffrage, and "New Nationalism" — Hamiltonian means for progressive ends.

	== ~~Infrared reading~~ ==		> "Do you know who chaired the Progressive Party? ...It was Theodore Roosevelt... In the election of 1912 he gained 27% of the vote — that's more than progressives have ever come to."
	TR ~~demonstrates~~ the ~~American precedent for~~ '''~~state capitalism from above~~'''~~: when monopoly decay threatened the republic~~, the ~~nationalist wing of~~ the ~~elite itself moved to subordinate finance to national power. Infrared cites him in arguing that economic patriotism and strong sovereign government are native American traditions~~, ~~not foreign imports — while criticizing his imperial turn as~~ the ~~beginning of~~ the ~~Anglo-American imperial synthesis~~ (~~see~~ [[~~Woodrow Wilson~~]], [[~~Anglo Box~~]]).		> "Wait, are you becoming a Marxist? Biden is now— are you supporting a Democrat?"
			> "Who said anything about supporting anything? I'll see you at the voting booth, bro."

			== The point ==
			TR's Bull Moose run is the standing proof that '''third parties with real class content can score''', against the "third parties never win" deflection — and the exchange shows Haz's debate method: concede nothing, flip the opponent's authorities, keep the frame ([[Andrew Jackson]], [[New Deal]]).

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[~~New Deal]]~~		* [[MAGA Communism]]
	* [[Corporate Socialism under FDR]]

	== References ==		== References ==
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'''Theodore Roosevelt''' (1858–1919), 26th President (1901–1909), is the Progressive-era embodiment of the strong nationalist state disciplining monopoly — the "Square Deal" president who expanded executive power in the name of the people against both plutocracy and radicalism.

== Record ==
* Trust-busting (Northern Securities, 1904; Standard Oil, 1911), the Hepburn Act regulating railroads, Pure Food and Drug Act.
* Conservation: national forests, parks, and monuments on a continental scale — state stewardship of land against speculative plunder.
* Big-stick imperialism: Panama Canal, Roosevelt Corollary, Great White Fleet — the turn of American nationalism outward.
* 1912 Bull Moose run: social insurance, women's suffrage, and "New Nationalism" — Hamiltonian means for progressive ends.

== Infrared reading ==
TR demonstrates the American precedent for '''state capitalism from above''': when monopoly decay threatened the republic, the nationalist wing of the elite itself moved to subordinate finance to national power. Infrared cites him in arguing that economic patriotism and strong sovereign government are native American traditions, not foreign imports — while criticizing his imperial turn as the beginning of the Anglo-American imperial synthesis (see [[Woodrow Wilson]], [[Anglo Box]]).

== See also ==
* [[New Deal]]
* [[Corporate Socialism under FDR]]

== References ==
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[[Category:People]][[Category:American politics]]