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'''The Ottomans''' — carrier of Islamic political order, and source of a political concept Haz keeps recommending. | |||
== | == The Circle of Justice == | ||
From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ COMMUNISM WINNING | INFRAWOKE stream], debating base/superstructure: | |||
== | > "There's this idea you should look up — a Persianate idea the Ottomans were known for being associated with, but everyone else was too. It's called the '''Circle of Justice'''. You can think about the Circle of Justice in materialist terms if you understand the relation of state to civil society and how they dialectically interact." | ||
The Circle (no army without wealth, no wealth without taxation, no taxation without the peasant's prosperity, no prosperity without justice and good rule) as an '''indigenous dialectical theory of state-society reciprocity''' — centuries before Hegel. | |||
== The gunpowder empires == | |||
Same stream: after Tamerlane reconciled dynastic Turco-Mongol tradition with "the eternal religious truth," "Islam only then took the form of these massive gunpowder empires — combining the dynastic Turco-Mongol tradition with Persianate imperial bureaucracy plus the religion of Islam." The Ottoman/Safavid/Mughal system was Islam's mature political form; British colonialism destroyed it and "Islam was condemned to languish, picked up only by the Wahhabis who completely distorted it into some kind of Talmudic false version based on textualism and formalism, with no content and no stakes in the actual material world." | |||
== Also == | |||
Ottoman support for the Union in the Civil War ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0f7c08ea-3a3f-4a62-bfa0-69d5531d0cc6/ TRUE RED PILL NEWS stream]: "You know who supported the Union? Russia did. The Ottoman Empire did."). | |||
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Latest revision as of 10:59, 21 August 2026
The Ottomans — carrier of Islamic political order, and source of a political concept Haz keeps recommending.
The Circle of Justice
From the COMMUNISM WINNING | INFRAWOKE stream, debating base/superstructure:
> "There's this idea you should look up — a Persianate idea the Ottomans were known for being associated with, but everyone else was too. It's called the Circle of Justice. You can think about the Circle of Justice in materialist terms if you understand the relation of state to civil society and how they dialectically interact."
The Circle (no army without wealth, no wealth without taxation, no taxation without the peasant's prosperity, no prosperity without justice and good rule) as an indigenous dialectical theory of state-society reciprocity — centuries before Hegel.
The gunpowder empires
Same stream: after Tamerlane reconciled dynastic Turco-Mongol tradition with "the eternal religious truth," "Islam only then took the form of these massive gunpowder empires — combining the dynastic Turco-Mongol tradition with Persianate imperial bureaucracy plus the religion of Islam." The Ottoman/Safavid/Mughal system was Islam's mature political form; British colonialism destroyed it and "Islam was condemned to languish, picked up only by the Wahhabis who completely distorted it into some kind of Talmudic false version based on textualism and formalism, with no content and no stakes in the actual material world."
Also
Ottoman support for the Union in the Civil War (TRUE RED PILL NEWS stream: "You know who supported the Union? Russia did. The Ottoman Empire did.").