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The '''Ottoman Empire''' | The '''Ottoman Empire''' appears in Haz Al-Din's streams in two registers: as the historical carrier of Islamic political order, and as a source of political concepts. | ||
== | == The Circle of Justice == | ||
From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream], debating base/superstructure: | |||
== | > "There's this idea you should look up — it's a Persianate idea the Ottomans were known for being associated with, but everyone else was too. It's called the '''Circle of Justice'''. You can think about the Circle of Justice in materialist terms if you understand the relation of state to civil society and how they dialectically interact." | ||
The Circle of Justice (no army without wealth, no wealth without taxation, no taxation without the peasant's prosperity, no prosperity without justice and good rule) is cited as an '''indigenous dialectical theory of state-society reciprocity''' — centuries before Hegel. | |||
== The gunpowder empires == | |||
Same stream, on Islam's political history: after Tamerlane reconciled dynastic Turco-Mongol tradition with "the eternal religious truth," "Islam only then took the form of these massive gunpowder empires — combining the dynastic Turco-Mongol tradition with Persianate imperial bureaucracy plus the religion of Islam." The Ottoman/Safavid/Mughal system was Islam's mature political form; its destruction by British colonialism "condemned Islam to languish, picked up only by the Wahhabis who completely distorted it into some kind of Talmudic false version based on textualism and formalism, with no content and no stakes in the actual material world." | |||
== Also noted == | |||
The Ottomans' support for the Union in the American Civil War ("You know who supported the Union? Russia did. The Ottoman Empire did.") appears in Haz's anti-confederate reading of American history ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/0f7c08ea-3a3f-4a62-bfa0-69d5531d0cc6/ TRUE RED PILL NEWS stream]). | |||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
* [[Communism is Islam]] | * [[Communism is Islam]] | ||
* [[Sharia]] | |||
* [[Qing Dynasty]] | * [[Qing Dynasty]] | ||
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Revision as of 10:03, 21 August 2026
The Ottoman Empire appears in Haz Al-Din's streams in two registers: as the historical carrier of Islamic political order, and as a source of political concepts.
The Circle of Justice
From the INFRAWOKE stream, debating base/superstructure:
> "There's this idea you should look up — it's a Persianate idea the Ottomans were known for being associated with, but everyone else was too. It's called the Circle of Justice. You can think about the Circle of Justice in materialist terms if you understand the relation of state to civil society and how they dialectically interact."
The Circle of Justice (no army without wealth, no wealth without taxation, no taxation without the peasant's prosperity, no prosperity without justice and good rule) is cited as an indigenous dialectical theory of state-society reciprocity — centuries before Hegel.
The gunpowder empires
Same stream, on Islam's political history: after Tamerlane reconciled dynastic Turco-Mongol tradition with "the eternal religious truth," "Islam only then took the form of these massive gunpowder empires — combining the dynastic Turco-Mongol tradition with Persianate imperial bureaucracy plus the religion of Islam." The Ottoman/Safavid/Mughal system was Islam's mature political form; its destruction by British colonialism "condemned Islam to languish, picked up only by the Wahhabis who completely distorted it into some kind of Talmudic false version based on textualism and formalism, with no content and no stakes in the actual material world."
Also noted
The Ottomans' support for the Union in the American Civil War ("You know who supported the Union? Russia did. The Ottoman Empire did.") appears in Haz's anti-confederate reading of American history (TRUE RED PILL NEWS stream).