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'''Ludwig von Mises''' | '''Ludwig von Mises''' — patriarch of the Austrian School and author of the "economic calculation problem" — appears in Infrared debates as the standard citation of libertarian opponents, and in Haz Al-Din's handling as a position whose foundations were "faulty from the beginning." | ||
== | == From the streams == | ||
* | * On the calculation debate ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/10ec3a31-ea24-45c9-8219-68350a003135/ INTENSE DEBATES | FBI ATTACK stream]): asked for a pitch against the economic calculation problem: "It's complete bullshit. The burden is not on me to debunk anything. There's nothing to debunk. It was based on faulty premises from the beginning." The premise fault: assuming all economic coordination requires a single common measure (price) — collapsing multiple dimensions into one number. | ||
* ''' | * In the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/948c3a09-3f57-4dd1-ba7c-447cccbd57b9/ Victory is ours stream], an opponent cites "modern economists — Mises, Rothbard": Haz notes the Austrian school isn't "modern" by the field's own classification (that's neoclassicals/marginalists) — the labor theory of value was "debunked" only within a framework built after Marx to avoid his conclusions. | ||
* ''' | * The libertarian movement's origin, per Haz ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/fqsih0ynb7e/ Kanye's CHALLENGE stream]): "based on a guy who read Hayek's Road to Serfdom" — a book-idea diffused into a mass identity; the real libertarian tradition Haz respects is the militia/Second Amendment one persecuted by the FBI in the 1990s, not Twitter Rothbardians. | ||
== | == See also == | ||
* [[Economic Calculation Problem]] | |||
* [[Friedrich August Hayek]] | |||
== References == | == References == | ||
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Revision as of 09:58, 21 August 2026
Ludwig von Mises — patriarch of the Austrian School and author of the "economic calculation problem" — appears in Infrared debates as the standard citation of libertarian opponents, and in Haz Al-Din's handling as a position whose foundations were "faulty from the beginning."
From the streams
- On the calculation debate (INTENSE DEBATES | FBI ATTACK stream): asked for a pitch against the economic calculation problem: "It's complete bullshit. The burden is not on me to debunk anything. There's nothing to debunk. It was based on faulty premises from the beginning." The premise fault: assuming all economic coordination requires a single common measure (price) — collapsing multiple dimensions into one number.
- In the Victory is ours stream, an opponent cites "modern economists — Mises, Rothbard": Haz notes the Austrian school isn't "modern" by the field's own classification (that's neoclassicals/marginalists) — the labor theory of value was "debunked" only within a framework built after Marx to avoid his conclusions.
- The libertarian movement's origin, per Haz (Kanye's CHALLENGE stream): "based on a guy who read Hayek's Road to Serfdom" — a book-idea diffused into a mass identity; the real libertarian tradition Haz respects is the militia/Second Amendment one persecuted by the FBI in the 1990s, not Twitter Rothbardians.