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"'''"The Asiatic mode of production''' appears in Haz's discourse both seriously (as the category for pre-capitalist planned orders) and in his famous Shrek bit.
'''The Asiatic mode of production''' gets Haz's most memorable exposition — via Shrek.


== The Shrek exposition ==
== From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/07274b7b-0196-4bcf-8711-fcd1640071af/ Huge updates stream] ==
From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/07274b7b-0196-4bcf-8711-fcd1640071af/ Huge updates stream]:


> "Shrek was a freehold peasant living in an Asiatic mode of production... Shrek was always cool with whoever the emperor was — he didn't want to get involved in politics. But Lord Farquaad wanted to end the Asiatic mode of production and institute private property and eliminate freehold peasants like Shrek and all these fairy-tale creatures... gather them in one place to be slaves and laborers. And that violated the social contract."
> "Shrek was a freehold peasant living in an Asiatic mode of production... He was always cool with whoever the emperor was — didn't want to get involved in politics. But Lord Farquaad wanted to end the Asiatic mode of production and institute private property and eliminate freehold peasants like Shrek and all these fairy-tale creatures... gather them in one place to be slaves and laborers. And that violated the social contract."


== The substance ==
== The substance ==
Behind the bit is a real position: the Asiatic mode — village communities under an overarching state that owns/concedes land, extracts rent rather than capitalist profit — names the '''non-capitalist ordered society''' that Western Marxism keeps trying to erase from history. It connects to Haz's provocations about the Qing and Ottomans as "actual socialism" ([[Qing Dynasty]], [[Ottoman Empire]]): if socialism means state-commanded production against private accumulation, the category must stretch historically — and the "primitive accumulation" moment (Farquaad's enclosure) is the villain of the story, not the order it destroyed.
Behind the bit: the Asiatic mode — village communities under an overarching state owning/conceding land, extracting rent rather than capitalist profit — names the '''non-capitalist ordered society''' Western Marxism keeps trying to erase. It connects to the Qing/Ottoman "actual socialism" provocations ([[Qing Dynasty]], [[Ottoman Empire]]): if socialism means state-commanded production against private accumulation, the category stretches historically — and Farquaad's enclosure (primitive accumulation) is the villain, not the order it destroyed ([[We already live in socialism]]).


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[We already live in socialism]]
* [[Narodniks]]
* [[Narodniks]]



Revision as of 10:51, 21 August 2026

The Asiatic mode of production gets Haz's most memorable exposition — via Shrek.

> "Shrek was a freehold peasant living in an Asiatic mode of production... He was always cool with whoever the emperor was — didn't want to get involved in politics. But Lord Farquaad wanted to end the Asiatic mode of production and institute private property and eliminate freehold peasants like Shrek and all these fairy-tale creatures... gather them in one place to be slaves and laborers. And that violated the social contract."

The substance

Behind the bit: the Asiatic mode — village communities under an overarching state owning/conceding land, extracting rent rather than capitalist profit — names the non-capitalist ordered society Western Marxism keeps trying to erase. It connects to the Qing/Ottoman "actual socialism" provocations (Qing Dynasty, Ottoman Empire): if socialism means state-commanded production against private accumulation, the category stretches historically — and Farquaad's enclosure (primitive accumulation) is the villain, not the order it destroyed (We already live in socialism).

See also

References