Project Cybersyn
""Project Cybersyn — and the "fully automated cybernetic communism" current around it — gets Haz's qualified critique: right on technology, wrong on politics.
From the RED PILL NEWS | PALESTINE WAR stream
> "This is why I was skeptical of the fully-automated AI cybernetic communism, the Cybersyn fans. Not because I thought AI, cybernetics, and computers aren't going to play a role in the future mode of production — that's not why at all. The reason I was dissatisfied is because it was technocratic in the pejorative sense: it really did neglect Mao's Cultural Revolution — or better yet, the Stakhanovite revolution, which not a lot of people [know about]."
The position
- Computers, AI, and planning belong to the same historical arc as communism itself ("one historical force" — same stream).
- But technology cannot substitute for the mass political process: the Cultural Revolution and the Stakhanovite movement were about elevating the masses into command, not optimizing allocation from above. Cybernetic socialism without mass subjectivity is just technocracy with red flags (State, We already live in socialism).
- The OGAS discussion (Lib Discord debate, via Cockshott) makes the historical point: the USSR discarded its cybernetics program — the calculation problem was answerable; what failed was political (Economic Calculation Problem).